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#87063
Hedda

Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
The Libyan Embassy murderer of PC Yvonne Fletcher was escorted by police to a bus then to Heathrow to fly to safety in a hostile Libya.

The UK government thwarted friendly Spain's attempt to extradite the mass murderer General Pinochet to answer for killing Spanish citizens.

Alleged condom breaker Julian Assange may cause an irreversable diplomatic incident.

discuss.
 
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#87066
FullFacts

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
Nothing, but NOTHING gets by Hedda Hopper - ROCKS !

Centuries ongoing, unchecked power-and-control freak Brit/Swede/Yank naZty NeoCONmen & Wimmin serial hypocrisies should be made, if not a Capital Crime, then at least a Hanging Offence. Just stretch 'em a bit.

NO ?

OK, then, A LOT !

Hang 'em all High, and then streeeeeeetch 'em Real Looooooooow !!

Case Dismissed. Free J. Assange and make him Minister For Information.

Take the power-and-control freak MISinformers all DOWN, and on to a Secure Unit at Guantanamo Bay Fun Camp for water-Boarders & non-boarder/permanent residents.

Bring on the next serial hypocrite (nut)cases for treatment please.

And now, hear this.

Never, ever forget the new Uber Law above which NO ONE stands - THE PEOPLES' WEB !

LoL.
 
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#87067
Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
Assange appears to be a fairly unpleasant sort of man trapped in a battle against them; and, as such, we should probably support him.

"They" are always faceless (and desperate to remain faceless - in every land the one thing they dread is attention - and accountability).

And trying to decipher a certain poster's incomprehensible posts I think that's what he/she is/are trying to say... for all its faults (and they are legion; not least of which is giving a voice to those who should not be heard) there is one great plus; the internet enables the exposure of those dark, masked, shadowy forces that deserve to have a spotlight shone on them.
 
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#87068
Hedda

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
I agree that he isn't a terribly likeable person but I would defend him to the death.

No hold on, not quite.

But it's fascinating how any sex charge (and there hasn't been one yet) but even the mere hint of one is now the catch-all to create hysteria.

Personally, I believe the UK would quite gladly prefer he was spirited away to Ecuador and out of their hair.

I wonder which bozo in the FO threatened to raid the embassy?

British embassy staff around the world would be in risk. Bad move.
 
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#87071
Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
Odd that Ecuador seems more concerned with Human Rights than the UK. A worrying message here - and you're spot on HH; bring SEX into it if you want media support for your crimes.
 
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#87072
Hedda

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
Even odder is the fact the FO has fools who seem to be ignorant of the law and issued a letter that is a diplomatic disaster.

Contrary to what the letter infers, Britain has no legal right to enter a foreign embassy because it is the sovereign soil of the foreign country.

Britain cannot remove sovereignty (hence the reference to colonies)

It does have the right to remove the embassy's charter to operate and expel the diplomats.

But it cannot remove them or enter the embassy because it still and always will be foreign soil.

Assange and the diplomats could live there for the rest of their lives on lovely Harrod's hampers as it's a little part of Ecuador. (what a ghastly thought!)
 
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#87073
WholeTruth

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
What's to like, or not ? Who among us here knows him anyway ?

Meanwhile, Quel Surprise, Maggie's Mob changed UK Diplomatic Law in '87 after the Libyan 'Diplomatic' Brit-cop-killing/murder, not avenged and tragic.

But 'Not In Our Name', not nearly matching Brit-Yank mass-killings over the centuries and decades. Check mainstream-muted/natch, TRUE BRIT historian MARK CURTIS: "Secret Affairs-Dirty Wars/UK Collusion with Radical Islam" "Unpeople/UK Secret Human Rights Abuses" "Web of Deceit/Britain's Real Role in the World" "The Great Deception: UK-US Power & World Order" "UK Foreign Policy since WW2" with the U.S. & backing brutal tyrants, in all killing 20 MILLION worldwide including MILLIONS OF CHILDREN !

PLUS: as always since the Swingin '60s ongoing unchecked, ever on-the-pulse, beyond the game, peerles-Pilger:

johnpilger.com/articles/you-are-all-susp...going-to-do-about-it

johnpilger.com/articles/protect-assange-don-t-abuse-him

johnpilger.com/articles/the-dirty-war-on...l-by-media-in-sweden

johnpilger.com/articles/the-getting-of-a...ring-of-a-revolution

johnpilger.com/articles/why-wikileaks-must-be-protected
 
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#87076
FullFacts

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
No Lynch Mob incitement mean't from us, JK.

Juss some traditional strrrrress-relievin' hyperbole, like say in Mel's naughty neice, Becky Brooks n Davy Cams well known Hoss opera 'Blazin Saddlesores' !

Luv, Hedley Lammar (and Mel Brooks).

"Where de white-wimmin at ?!" (Can they still run that super Racist-Sexist '70s stuff at primetime - or anytime ? Best ask F. Boyle, 'It's Only Jock n Jokes, But We Like It. Honky Tonk !)

LoL.
 
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#87078
Hedda

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
yes the law was changed because of Yvonne Fletcher's murder but according to legal experts the British government still cannot enter an embassy unless invited.

In the real world of course they can do as they want.

But the fact they wrote such a threatening letter that if carried out would basically trash convention does indicate that Assange is correct to fear for his safety. And obviously Ecuador agrees.

Perhaps they can make him an Ecuadorean subject and a diplomat.

As the Chinese say 'may you live in interesting times' and so we do. I never thought my dotage would be so interesting.

Also it's interesting that John Pilger has been a financially successful journalist and owns 2 very lovely homes: one in the UK and one in Australia. These days I doubt a writer like him could ever succeed. I pity newspaper journalist.
 
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#87083
Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
If Sweden had the slightest interest in these false allegations (I assume that because most are) they would surely send detectives to London to interview him - as conforms to the next stage in Swedish law. Since they clearly know the result of that would have to be dismissal of the fake claims, they won't do it (I gather Swedish cops have been to Serbia to interview a possible murderer).

Come on Hague, the whole thing stinks. Don't get involved.
 
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#87085
Hedda

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
I know of no country where they invite a suspect of serious crime to travel to another city let alone another country.

Ball in Sweden's court now...travel to London and interview him before the FO makes another hash of diplomacy.
 
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#87088
FullFacts

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
Oddly (or not) unreported by daytime, flagship Beeb R.4. 'Toady-Today', is that Ecuador invited Sweden to interview Jules inside their Londres pad. As the Swedes have done elsewhere in similar circumstances. Suckin' Yanks n Brits slimy Swedes declined natch.

Oddly UK daytime unreported, cos it WAS rightly reported overnight on Beeb World Service, so the BritBrainCrappers can later cover themselves.

Manipulative, divisive, devious, duplicitous (on a good day)

B rit B rain C rap.

Good Day.

P.S. The place for BLiar-backing Hague & Co is - The Hague !
 
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#87090
Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
Yes; credit where due it was on BBC Brekkie I saw this but it was not an official BBC news report but a friend of Assange being interviewed who dropped this bombshell. Of course, the Swedes could also have come weeks ago to Britain and interviewed him whilst he was on bail; all quite permitted by Assange - publicly. The only assumption any sane person can make is... this is NOT about the Swedish false allegations but about getting him to the US because their diplomatic noses have been put out of joint.
 
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#87105
angel

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
Has anyone told Julian Assange that if he wants to escape the attentions of the MET police, he just needs to wrap himself in a blanket and hide in his own loft?
 
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#87121
Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Assange appears to be a fairly unpleasant sort of man trapped in a battle against them; and, as such, we should probably support him.

"They" are always faceless (and desperate to remain faceless - in every land the one thing they dread is attention - and accountability).

And trying to decipher a certain poster's incomprehensible posts I think that's what he/she is/are trying to say... for all its faults (and they are legion; not least of which is giving a voice to those who should not be heard) there is one great plus; the internet enables the exposure of those dark, masked, shadowy forces that deserve to have a spotlight shone on them.


Oh agreed.

Assange isn't without his dark secrets, but I think this sex crime in Sweden thing is a huge red herring as perhaps the Ecuadorians have also realised. Why haven't the Swedish investigators been to interview Assange at the embassy? Because they know it's bollocks and the only reason why they want him in Sweden is that the extradition between the USA and Sweden is surprisingly less of a problem than it is between the USA and the UK.

They (the Ecuadorians) should be applauded for what they have done. It's true freedom, not the sort of Imperialistic freedoms that the USA and the UK try and force on countries that aren't built for it or don't want it, where it's only democracy if the peoples vote in Ministers that the USA or the UK want and have placed there.
 
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#87123
Innocent Accused

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
steveimp wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Assange appears to be a fairly unpleasant sort of man trapped in a battle against them; and, as such, we should probably support him.

"They" are always faceless (and desperate to remain faceless - in every land the one thing they dread is attention - and accountability).

And trying to decipher a certain poster's incomprehensible posts I think that's what he/she is/are trying to say... for all its faults (and they are legion; not least of which is giving a voice to those who should not be heard) there is one great plus; the internet enables the exposure of those dark, masked, shadowy forces that deserve to have a spotlight shone on them.


Oh agreed.

Assange isn't without his dark secrets, but I think this sex crime in Sweden thing is a huge red herring as perhaps the Ecuadorians have also realised. Why haven't the Swedish investigators been to interview Assange at the embassy? Because they know it's bollocks and the only reason why they want him in Sweden is that the extradition between the USA and Sweden is surprisingly less of a problem than it is between the USA and the UK.

They (the Ecuadorians) should be applauded for what they have done. It's true freedom, not the sort of Imperialistic freedoms that the USA and the UK try and force on countries that aren't built for it or don't want it, where it's only democracy if the peoples vote in Ministers that the USA or the UK want and have placed there.


Indeed Steve,and an angle most of the press avoid
 
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#87127
Chris Retro

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
It's extraordinary the lengths they are going to - no doubt getting their attitude towards Ecuador from their USA puppet-masters who have of couse treated the smaller Latin American countries as playthings for years anyway. News from the embassy is the police have arrived mob-handed just now.

What is the most shocking thing about this saga is the "gloves off" shameless approach to 'Getting Assange' - there can be no doubt that the yanks control both Sweden & the UK, as witnessed by the blatant subversion of the rule of law. Americans demanding JA is kiled, live on TV and without shame or explanation, stating clearly that any citizen of A.N.other country can commit "Treason" against the mighty States - are they not aware the NWO is still supposed to secret? It isn't a secret anymore.
 
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#87129
Ms H.Hopper

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
Eight BIG PROBLEMS with the “case” against Assange (MUST-READ by Naomi Wolf)


markcrispinmiller.com/2011/02/eight-big-...-read-by-naomi-wolf/
 
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#87136
FullFacts

Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
And This is Why The New Uber-Law Above Which NO ONE Stands is - THE PEOPLES' WEB

markcrispinmiller.com/2010/12/sweden-doe...an-assange-for-rape/

markcrispinmiller.com/orwell-rolls-in-his-grave/ Meanwhile Winnie-Spins & Orwell-Rolls
 
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#87142
Re:Julian Assange 12 Years, 11 Months ago  
Excellent interview with an American on BBC News tonight but what on earth is the world's media playing at, pretending this is nothing to do with America and Wikileaks?
 
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