I thought Lyrical should have been in the final but what do I know? It's been a very strong series with quite a few very strong voices.

Congratulations Kevin; I thought this was a really strong last BBC series of The Voice. Will was best judge though.

I thought they were 'coaches' not 'judges', and the final two write both Ricky's so I think he was the best coach!

JK2006 wrote:
Congratulations Kevin; I thought this was a really strong last BBC series of The Voice. Will was best judge though.Really? I think he ruined Lydia's chances by making her sing his latest song without giving any consideration to whether it worked for her or was even in her key. He then, like George, wanted to own the stage and make it all about him.

Ricky was totally selfless, he chose songs that showed the strength of his singers, not of him... not of him by a long shot. He stood aside on the stage and let them shine. He was the better coach and as a result won hands down.

It wasn't so much the mentoring ability as the entertainment value.

JK2006 wrote:
It wasn't so much the mentoring ability as the entertainment value.Yeah I'll give him that, but one of the key differences of The Voice over X-Factor is that it's not all about the judges, it's about the talent... as it should be.

Kevin Simm just secured #2 on the big top 40, has that ever happened before for The Voice? It's been a while building but it's finally achieved what it set out to and what all talent contests should be there for.. to find the talent!

F**k The Judges IMO, they've already made it.

You're making the same mistake I made during my first two years running Eurovision for the UK K, thinking The Voice is a music show. It isn't. It's a TV show. Yes music and talent is an ingredient but essentially it needs to be both visually and aurally entertaining (if it was just music, it would be a radio show). So both the eyes and the ears need to be seduced. The result? Not a hit (delighted, personally, if it does that, which it finally has) but ratings. And at last the TV show has scored big ratings.

And only on the BBC would The Voice have survived after its poor start. The BBC had the patience to stick with it, tweaked a few things each year, and finally made it into a reasonably decent prime time show - only for the combination of the Culture Department and the Mail to seize on it as a 'commercially-driven' show that shouldn't be on the channel, hence making a new bid to renew the show pretty much impossible, and handing it, without any competition, to ITV. Well done Whittingdale for some top class political meddling.

The mind boggles what ITV will do to it:probably over-amplified Nuremberg Rally-style audience screaming, hosts dressed like 1970s Burton's models (what IS the point in those stupid top pocket hankies they all wear these days??), invented controversies, loads of pro singers smuggled in as untested wannabes, scandals planted every day in the tabloids and rigged decisions. What a waste of the past few years effort.

JK2006 wrote:
You're making the same mistake I made during my first two years running Eurovision for the UK K, thinking The Voice is a music show. It isn't. It's a TV show. Yes music and talent is an ingredient but essentially it needs to be both visually and aurally entertaining (if it was just music, it would be a radio show). So both the eyes and the ears need to be seduced. The result? Not a hit (delighted, personally, if it does that, which it finally has) but ratings. And at last the TV show has scored big ratings.To the public it should be believed to be about the music and The Voice has nearly all the elements to ensure this, while X-Factor is totally transparent. Yes, I agree you need characters for the entertainment and Will.I.Am wins at this hands down, but both Will and George using the show to promote their own music and career in such a blatant way, and at the detriment of the contestants, didn't fit with The Voice's image IMO.