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TOPIC: RIP Liam Payne 31
#249416
RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 3 Days ago  
Never met him - One Direction emerged totally due to me though (after turning down numerous demands and huge money to be the "nasty" Judge on Pop Stars for ITV, I recommended Simon Cowell. He turned down the offer too but then set up Pop Idol (after speaking to me at length) and the Cowell Empire began. Always sad though to read of the death of anybody - let alone a 31 year old. I wonder whether drink or drugs were involved.
 
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robbiex

Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
One member of Girls Aloud has died, one member of Boyzone, and now one member of One Direction. 3 deaths from 3 of the biggest pop groups, and yet we are all supposed to be living longer.
 
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#249450
Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
The tragedy is - it dawns on teenagers as they reach their 20s that the only talent they had was being pretty. No ability in singing or dancing or writing or anything. Even their look is constructed by others. At least with The Bay City Rollers I had nothing to do with that - just tried to make mass appeal hits (Keep On Dancing). That empty hollow of recognition often affects people (sub consciously). But it's true across the board for celebrities - even the talented actors or politicians or whatever find FAME gnawing away at their ego because the truth is - they owe most of it to others and contribute a TINY amount whilst getting 99% of credit they don't deserve. It's usually subconscious but it's there.
 
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Green Man

Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
robbiex wrote:
One member of Girls Aloud has died, one member of Boyzone, and now one member of One Direction. 3 deaths from 3 of the biggest pop groups, and yet we are all supposed to be living longer.

Too much money at a very young age, a wreckless lifestyle soon follows, unless they have a good mentor. Harry Styles seems to prefer the company of older people, so he probably got a lecture and some fatherly advice about looking after money.

If I remember correctly Jimmy McCulloch got some advice by Macca about the lifestyle he was having, I think he tried to compete with Denny Laine and Macca.

Richard Coles wasted most of his money on a shit load of coke and booze, he is very lucky to be alive.
 
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#249457
Chris

Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
When you start looking into just how many singers have died so young over the years, even going all the way back to the fifties, it's quite shocking to discover the large list of names you end up with. I'm sure people on here don't need me to remind them of something known as the '27 Club' for instance.
 
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#249462
Honey

Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
With the encouragement of an ex girlfriend, some people came forward with accusations that he sent naked photos without knowing or caring about their ages.
This was splashed all over the usual outlets.

I dont know if the allegations are true, but either way, it cant be right to make something like that public, without even a formal complaint, let alone charges?

Maybe it contributed to his already disturbed and drugged mind, maybe not, and maybe he fell, maybe he jumped, but he must have known that his reputation was ruined, guilty or not.
It stinks.
 
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#249469
Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
A lot of people get very upset when falsely accused of something and it can strain their mental state, even if we the public never know about it. Likewise those who decide to take drugs often find the effects can be very negative (in the 60s we called it "a bad trip") which sometimes lead to you throwing yourself (or a TV) off a hotel balcony.

Lifestyle choices and the effects of the Media and the Legal System affect different people in different ways.
 
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robbiex

Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Not to mention the guy from s-club 7 who died last year. It seems to be the lesser known, lesser successful members of the group who succumb. Sarah Harding got cancer, which was just extremely unfortunate and tragic, but Stephen Gately, Paul from s-club, and now Liam Payne went off the rails, didn't know their limits and had no direction in life. When I saw the picture of Liam Payne, i honestly didn't recognise him. As Terry Hall once said drugs just turn a w*nker into an even bigger w*nker.
 
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#249482
Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Yes Robbie agreed - one of the many reasons I never did drugs nor smoked was because I felt any negative results could emerge in later life. But there are many where they do remain successful or famous (Matthew Perry) who can live quite long. I know several who are my age or older (in their 80s) who are physically and medically fine but whose character and brains have become pickled by earlier abuse and have essentially become total cunts. Both genders - all types - some lovely human beings who are simply, in some respects, not quite so lovely anymore.
 
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Rich

Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Yes Robbie agreed - one of the many reasons I never did drugs nor smoked was because I felt any negative results could emerge in later life. But there are many where they do remain successful or famous (Matthew Perry) who can live quite long. I know several who are my age or older (in their 80s) who are physically and medically fine but whose character and brains have become pickled by earlier abuse and have essentially become total cunts. Both genders - all types - some lovely human beings who are simply, in some respects, not quite so lovely anymore.

You yourself JK were only just out of your teenage years when you had that first and big hit record in the summer of 1965, just twenty I believe, so how different did you feel once that had happened to you compared to before? Technically still a minor by 1965 standards when the age of the majority was still 21 until the end of the sixties, yet it always seems to me that younger people then had older heads on their shoulders.
 
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robbiex

Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Rich wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Yes Robbie agreed - one of the many reasons I never did drugs nor smoked was because I felt any negative results could emerge in later life. But there are many where they do remain successful or famous (Matthew Perry) who can live quite long. I know several who are my age or older (in their 80s) who are physically and medically fine but whose character and brains have become pickled by earlier abuse and have essentially become total cunts. Both genders - all types - some lovely human beings who are simply, in some respects, not quite so lovely anymore.

You yourself JK were only just out of your teenage years when you had that first and big hit record in the summer of 1965, just twenty I believe, so how different did you feel once that had happened to you compared to before? Technically still a minor by 1965 standards when the age of the majority was still 21 until the end of the sixties, yet it always seems to me that younger people then had older heads on their shoulders.


It was only a one-hit wonder. Great though that is, it can't compare to the global phonomonem that was one direction and the teen idol following that followed. I know that there were a few other hits a few years later under different names. I must admit that I had watched JK on Entertainment USA for several years before I even realised that there was any pop career years earlier. Information was hard to get hold of in those days.
 
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#249546
Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 3 Weeks ago  
No Robbie - under different names I had many hits including a few more as JK (Una Paloma Blanca in 1975). In fact a total of 40 million that I sang on. But yes, Rich, I was a teenager when I wrote and sang MOON but luckily had great honest mentors and was able to have time (being both in pop and at University) to make up my own mind whether to take drugs, nicotine or alcohol (I didn't). Plus my many friends in music and, later, in TV and journalism accepted those were not for me and were happy not to push me (with the possible exception of Mama Cass Elliot who considered it almost a Messianic cause to turn everybody on!).
 
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#249660
Hamlet

Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
I’m wondering why you turned down ‘Pop Idol’ JK. It was a fantastic opportunity and those shows are money for old rope as far as the judges go. It’s all formulaic and acting a role. There’s the bit where you ridicule the old/nerdy/freakish ones who can’t sing and then on comes some pretty boy/girl with a decent voice and a sad backstory (cue emotional music) that you gush over. Licence to print money for very little work. You’d have coined it in.
 
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Green Man

Re:RIP Liam Payne 31 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
All the new feeds I am getting are about Liam Payne, funny how they didn't care when he was alive but come out of the woodwork when the poor lad died.

It sounds like Liam, didn't have good friends but sycophants and hangers-on.
 
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