You weren't watching it then?!

As I stated earlier Corbin made to look the foolish idiot that he clearly is

So?

I dont watch pmqs as there is no point: it is childish, condescending, masturbatory clap trap....

But if she did "slaughter" him (and what does this even mean?)- why is that interesting in any way?

Not trying to be being argumentative - I'm just wondering where the observation leads you?

wyot wrote:
But if she did "slaughter" him (and what does this even mean?)- why is that interesting in any way?

Not trying to be being argumentative - I'm just wondering where the observation leads you?

I didn't learn anything from it - it just confirmed what I already know.

PMQs gives the public (those who have an opinion but haven't a clue what they are talking about) the opportunity to see people challenged on their statements (and frequently brought to book about the nonsense they are claiming).

Yesterday, Corbyn tried to make political capital out of the Windrush episode, but was left red-faced when he found out that it was a (yet another) fiasco brought about under the last Labour government !

These Loonies have no credible plans (just more debt / borrowing) ... and exist mainly to dry to denigrate the government's enormous achievements (lowest unemployment since 1975 / more people in work that ever before / inflation falling / wages rising) - ALL despite also having to reduce spending so they can start to pay off the debt Labour left behind last time.

Quite astonishing, really.

www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk


No Tory budget surplus for nearly 40 years now

In other words, no Tory Debt reduction since Thatcher

And Major left a Debt of over £350 billion


Pity Google is not your friend...

Spee wrote:
no Tory Debt reduction since Thatcher

Major left a Debt of over £350 billion

Or did I miss a surplus year - and am I wrong about the Thatcher/Major Debt legacy (£500 billion now, taking inflation into account)?

They both used very emotive terms in the PMQs, the reality is probably some jobs worth civil servants were been too stringent in their job and not using their common sense.

robbiex wrote:
the reality is probably some jobs worth civil servants were been too stringent in their job and not using their common sense.

...... civil servants working under a LABOUR government !

Funny how Labour seems to "forget" its responsibilities, isn't it?
(Like when they gave the Bank of England Independence, and "forgot" to monitor what was going on ... resulting in the financial crash of 2008?)

In The Know (as always !) wrote:
robbiex wrote:
the reality is probably some jobs worth civil servants were been too stringent in their job and not using their common sense.

...... civil servants working under a LABOUR government !

Funny how Labour seems to "forget" its responsibilities, isn't it?
(Like when they gave the Bank of England Independence, and "forgot" to monitor what was going on ... resulting in the financial crash of 2008?)

Indeed.

In The Know wrote:
Yesterday, Corbyn tried to make political capital out of the Windrush episode, but was left red-faced when he found out that it was a (yet another) fiasco brought about under the last Labour government !

These Loonies have no credible plans (just more debt / borrowing) ... and exist mainly to dry to denigrate the government's enormous achievements (lowest unemployment since 1975 / more people in work that ever before / inflation falling / wages rising) - ALL despite also having to reduce spending so they can start to pay off the debt Labour left behind last time.

Quite astonishing, really.

QUOTE - The decision to destroy the landing cards for Windrush migrants was taken under Labour, former home secretary Alan Johnson has said. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43835664

PB wrote:
In The Know wrote:
Yesterday, Corbyn tried to make political capital out of the Windrush episode, but was left red-faced when he found out that it was a (yet another) fiasco brought about under the last Labour government !

These Loonies have no credible plans (just more debt / borrowing) ... and exist mainly to dry to denigrate the government's enormous achievements (lowest unemployment since 1975 / more people in work that ever before / inflation falling / wages rising) - ALL despite also having to reduce spending so they can start to pay off the debt Labour left behind last time.

Quite astonishing, really.

QUOTE - The decision to destroy the landing cards for Windrush migrants was taken under Labour, former home secretary Alan Johnson has said. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43835664

He didn't actually say that in his interview with Andrew Neil..he said...and NO 10 has now corrected the PM that the decision was taken by the Border Force and no Labour Minister was involved and indeed...that the actual destruction was undertaken under a Conservative government.

This is politicking that is too tricky by half. Was the PM's statement deliberate and intended to mislead or just a mistake (it got ITK very excited )

Theresa May 'Misled Parliament' In Trying To Blame Labour For Windrush Fiasco
Within minutes of PMQs, No10 admitted it was officials' decision
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-m...4773e4b0e4d0715c25b1

hedda wrote:
He didn't actually say that

All together now ... oh yes he did !

Yet another example of a cock-up (under Labopur) having to be cleared-up by the Tories.

If Labour had already signed it off (or allowed their civil servants - who they were NOT checking ! - to sign it off) its a done deal !

In The Know wrote:
hedda wrote:
He didn't actually say that

All together now ... oh yes he did !

Yet another example of a cock-up (under Labopur) having to be cleared-up by the Tories.

If Labour had already signed it off (or allowed their civil servants - who they were NOT checking ! - to sign it off) its a done deal !

If civil servants needed every single decision checked and approved, the government might as well just do it themselves.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
If civil servants needed every single decision checked and approved, the government might as well just do it themselves.

Ministers set police ... civil servants carry out THEIR instructions !

Which part of "the decision was made in 2009 when Labour were in power" are you having most difficulty understanding ?

In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
If civil servants needed every single decision checked and approved, the government might as well just do it themselves.

Ministers set police ... civil servants carry out THEIR instructions !

Which part of "the decision was made in 2009 when Labour were in power" are you having most difficulty understanding ?

So you are saying that they needed permission to chuck out the landing cards?

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
So you are saying that they needed permission to chuck out the landing cards?

The decision had already been taken - by Labour Ministers in 2009.

Have you never watched Yes, Minister?

In The Know wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
So you are saying that they needed permission to chuck out the landing cards?

The decision had already been taken - by Labour Ministers in 2009.

Have you never watched Yes, Minister?

Well, it apparently didnt need any involvement from government, but it could have been stopped by the Conservatives if they had been on the ball, so both are responsible.

I dont actually think it is anybody's fault. Nobody in their wildest nightmares would imagine that people who had been here fifty or seventy years would be required to prove citizenship.


Both Corbyn and May come across as childish, blaming each other, and Theresa May has been exposed as a monster, I'm afraid.
I am disgusted by her "deport first and then let them appeal" stance.

ITK, I know you like to support the Conservatives come what May (Ha!) and I very much admire your loyalty, but I dont see how somebody decent (and I know you are) can possibly think this is ok.
I think you (we) need to make a stand against policies like this otherwise they will never get elected again. (despite all Corbyn's help!)

And no, I have never seen any of the Yes Ministers.
I might look for a box set.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
ITK, I know you like to support the Conservatives come what May (Ha!) and I very much admire your loyalty, but I dont see how somebody decent (and I know you are) can possibly think this is ok.
I think you (we) need to make a stand against policies like this otherwise they will never get elected again. (despite all Corbyn's help!)

I agree entirely.

Its shocking that we invite people to come to this country - to keep our infastructure going, because the locals won;t do the work - and then treat them like this. Will then do the same to NHS staff in a few years time?

Thats why its important to realise that it was under a Labour government that these decisions were made.

Yes, Minister was very funny (tended to show the Minister as a bit of a buffoon who was actually "controlled" by the civil servants behind him).