Katona, Price, Nolan etc.

Hasbeens getting paid for telling us how much weight they've lost. Etc.

And later - how much fat they put on, and lost again¡¡


Then - how I funded everything my first (or fourth) husband did.

But he robbed me! My new fellow is great with all the children though.

I'm on telly again too!


Some untalented women have, however, been successful.

Holden - for example - who was smart enough to marry Les Dennis, at the right time.

Leaving him, when pecuniary advantageous...

years ago I worked on the lovely Diana Dors publicity (I did so well but it wasn't hard as the media loved her even though she was past her prime...and incidentally met the late Jimmy Savile at Broadcasting House because of it)....

and she told me she had a terrific contract and deal with TVAM to lose weight in possibly one of the first weight loss reality shows.

And boy did she rapidly lose weight but it just seemed so odd to me and she didn't have that type of slim body- she was a natural "fuller figure" type.

and then she was gone within 6 months from cancer. It actually took her 3 months to realise why she rapidly dropped so much weight.

It is very dangerous to equate weight loss with success, as the celebrity dieting merry go round implies.

The worst of it is, they
appear to deliberately target celebrities with eating disorders such as poor Chanelle Hayes, (who has always spoke openly) and those who have very obvious mental health struggles, when it is bound to make things worse.

I am not sure that its fair to imply that Amanda Holden used Les Dennis as a step up,though.
Why wouldn't she just be in love with him? He seems pleasant enough.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
I am not sure that its fair to imply that Amanda Holden used Les Dennis as a step up,though.

Why wouldn't she just be in love with him? He seems pleasant enough.


1. Well, she didn't do much before she hooked up with Dennis!

2. Maybe that's why she had an affair with Neil Morrissey?


And she seemed to go to some lengths to publicise both daliances.

Right from the beginning.


This lady craves attention - and is good at getting it.

Her current modus operandi is to only nearly wear her clothes...

Barney wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
I am not sure that its fair to imply that Amanda Holden used Les Dennis as a step up,though.

Why wouldn't she just be in love with him? He seems pleasant enough.


1. Well, she didn't do much before she hooked up with Dennis!

2. Maybe that's why she had an affair with Neil Morrissey?


And she seemed to go to some lengths to publicise both daliances.

Right from the beginning.


This lady craves attention - and is good at getting it.

Her current modus operandi is to only nearly wear her clothes...





But she was with him for ten years and she was already an actress. They met when they worked together in the theatre.

You dont mean she leaked the affair to the press herself, surely?

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
You dont mean she leaked the affair to the press herself, surely?


When totally talentless people (like me) get this disproportionate amount of publicity and exposure - something is afoot.

Being only reasonably articulate, and looking good (with effort, and costume tricks) - doesn't justify/make or produce success.

Mediocrities need a scheming brain to progress; Holden didn't marry the local barman (post Dennis/Morrissey) - did she?

She strategically involved the unsuspecting Morrissey, to increase her 'status' - before leaving the naieve Dennis, who was seriously played.

Barney wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
You dont mean she leaked the affair to the press herself, surely?


When totally talentless people (like me) get this disproportionate amount of publicity and exposure - something is afoot.

Being only reasonably articulate, and looking good (with effort, and costume tricks) - doesn't justify/make or produce success.

Mediocrities need a scheming brain to progress; Holden didn't marry the local barman (post Dennis/Morrissey) - did she?

She strategically involved the unsuspecting Morrissey, to increase her 'status' - before leaving the naieve Dennis, who was seriously played.






Who is she married to now? Some nobody?

it's the era of mediocrity.

In some ways it's quite interesting as in so many "reality TV" shows...I mean I actually like watching two ladies scolding dirty filthy Chavs because of their ghastly homes littered with trash and then helping them clean it up.

I'm very fond of The Voice and especially the European versions where great entertainers are discovered (not sure if they have a career though).

Alternatively shows like I'm A Celeb etc leave me cold.

Mediocrity is The Buzz word of the 21st Century.

It even produces faux personalities like Boris Johnson and Donald Trump.

Trump and Boris wouldn't be on my celebrity mediocrities list.

Apart from becoming the leader of their respective countries, both were very successful earlier.

DT as a property developer and TV personality. Boris as a quasi-academic, linguist and editor/journalist.

DT was/is a total failure. He inherited his business empire and drove it into the ground..He was about 4 billion in debt until the Russians bailed him out and managed the online campaign/info war to get him into the White House and destabilise the USA. He remains firmly in their pocket.

wyot wrote:
DT was/is a total failure. He inherited his business empire and drove it into the ground..He was about 4 billion in debt until the Russians bailed him out and managed the online campaign/info war to get him into the White House and destabilise the USA. He remains firmly in their pocket.

If he persuaded the Russians to help him, and he got to be president,I would call that a success.

Total failures haven't been in the Forbes 400, for several decades!

Or earned c$220 million for The Apprentice.

Currently ranked 259 by Forbes (in terms of America's richest), he bought the Trump Building - on Wall Street - for $1 million, a few years ago.

It's now valued at over $500 million.


Not bad - for a total failure...