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Woman accusing Prince Andrew/Ghislaine Maxwell/anyone you care to name
TOPIC: Woman accusing Prince Andrew/Ghislaine Maxwell/anyone you care to name
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Woman accusing Prince Andrew/Ghislaine Maxwell/anyone you care to name 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre claims she was made to have sex with mystery prince
The media just can't get enough of this woman and her stories. She seems already to have been interviewed by the BBC, NBC, CBS, Australia's 60 Minutes and probably even more in due course.
Take her Prince Andrew allegations. I don't understand why so many people seem so ready to believe them. Signs that she's embroidering her story are in the photo and in her multifarious interviews. She told Australia's 60 Minutes (YouTube: "Exposing Jeffrey Epstein's international sex trafficking ring") that she felt "absolutely disgusted" when Ghislaine Maxwell allegedly told her on the alleged car trip back to her house from the alleged vist to Tramp nightclub that she'd have to do for Prince Andrew what she did for Jeffrey Epstein, suggesting something sexual. But she's smiling from ear to ear in the photo, with her arm round Prince Andrew and leaning into him. She doesn't look disgusted at all.
This scenario also presupposes that Prince Andrew would have been unable to ask her himself while dancing at Tramp, but had used Ghislaine Maxwell as a go-between in his sex life. In fact, any allegation that Jeffrey Epstein/Ghislaine Maxwell "ordered" her or anyone else to have sex with someone would presuppose that. It seems a decidedly odd way for someone to conduct their sex life.
She also told 60 Minutes, while holding the photo of herself and Prince Andrew, that it was of the "very first time" she met him. Yet she claimed that the photo was taken after she'd been dancing with him at Tramp, so closely that he'd supposedly been "raining" sweat on her, as she told the BBC, so she'd have already more than "met" him by the time she came back to Ghislaine Maxwell's house if the Tramp story was true.
The Daily Mirror quotes her as saying "All of us went upstairs and I asked Jeffrey to snap a picture of me with the Prince. I wanted something to show my mom." Yet she appears to have told the Miami Herald that she was a runaway (YouTube "How teen runaway Virginia Roberts became one of Jeffrey Epstein's victims"). As Sheba Bear has pointed out here, if she was a runaway, why would she have wanted a photo to show her mum? Aren't runaways usually estranged from whoever they've run away from? If she was actually in touch with her mum and letting her know where she was, why didn't she tell her that she was being "forced" to do things she didn't want to do and had been turned into a "sex slave" and ask her to help her escape?
She doesn't seem to have explained how she was "forced" to do things she didn't want to do or was turned into a "sex slave" and no-one in the media seems to have asked her how this worked. Was it comparable to what Islamic State did to the Yazidi girls and women, for example?
While she tearfully told 60 Minutes, standing in front of Epstein's New York house, that she didn't realise what kind of world she was being brought into, she also told them elsewhere that she was required to have sex with Jeffrey Epstein on the first occasion she gave him a massage, with Ghislaine Maxwell supposedly participating. The Miami Herald report also indicates that she claimed that her abuse by them started "immediately" and that they had given her sex "training" which had been "basically every day" and like "going to school". If that was the case and she knew from the start what they wanted from her, why didn't she just up and leave? Why didn't she run away from them if she had already, as she seems to have claimed, run away from home? She was apparently already loving her job at Mar-a-Lago, as she told CBS. Why give that up for something you don't want to do?
One thing that never seems to be mentioned in the interviews is how much she was paid and for what, how much she earned for bringing in other girls and how many she recruited. But perhaps those are far too sensitive questions for delicate hacks, especially if their media outlets are paying her too.
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Re:Woman accusing Prince Andrew/Ghislaine Maxwell/anyone you care to name 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Great post, hedda. You make excellent points. Interesting that she's been boasting about being in a luxury resort and taunting Ghislaine Maxwell. I've found a report about it:
Epstein 'sex slave' taunts Ghislaine Maxwell with stunning view of swimming pool
I had been wondering about her lifestyle. In her CBS interview (on YouTube), she seemed to be in a large modern living room, suggestive of a large modern house. Not necessarily her home, but I'd have thought it likely given the coronavirus situation. In the 60 Minutes programme (also on YouTube), they said she lives in north Queensland and she was seen standing at what appeared to be a long terrace overlooking trees, also walking with her husband along a beach, and riding a horse with the interviewer riding another alongside her. It looked as if they aren't short of money. Not sure if this would be the same place, maybe it is:
How Jeffrey Epstein's 'sex slave' Virginia Roberts hides from the world behind 4-metre walls, security cameras and bush – as she prepares to unload on Prince Andrew with the 'biggest news story in the world'
Sheba, have just looked at her Twitter page and she's saying "I’ve had my DM page blown up by journalists. If you work in media or are a journalist, podcaster, radio host, speaking engagement director ect please contact Dini". She describes Dini in another Tweet as her "new PR".
Honey, I'd been wondering the same, but didn't like to say. But I can guess what her answer would be: something about having special skills, that again you'd just have to take her word for.
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