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Jo wrote: No mention of changes of clothes or showers here either (PDF pages 39/40). Ghislaine's woolly top and trousers are mentioned as what she was wearing before they set off.
What shines through in Virginia Giuffre's description of the supposed interaction with Prince Andrew, is how irresistible and special he supposedly found her. What better thing to boast about to her friend Carolyn Andriano? "Don't tell anyone, but..." Juvenile fantasy taken to the limit.
I only ever went to Tramp twice (once with Dodi Fayed ) and you did have to dress up unless say you were with a big celeb which Andrew would be. He may have been wearing a suit and took his jacket & tie off..but Guifre would have been far more dressed up one would think..after all she has boasted of the expensive shopping trips with Maxwell and there is no way Maxwell would have gone to Tramp wearing what she did in the photo, so you make a very god point.
An attractive aristocrat wearing a bikini would be Tramp's idea of glam dressing !
That's interesting! Astounding that Giuffre's lawyers have never seen the photo. Hard to believe she would mislay such an important photo. But it's hard to believe a word she says.
I cant find it now, But I could have sworn that I read somewhere about the "original" photo being among a heap of other teenage souvenir photos and that it was safely under lock and key at the solicitors?
Wow. Difficult not to assume guilt now. He seems to be following in the footsteps of Ghislaine Maxwell, as she apparently paid Giuffre an undisclosed settlement. Perhaps he'll end up in jail too in due course. Or maybe just house/villa/castle arrest for the rest of his life.
Jo wrote: Wow. Difficult not to assume guilt now. He seems to be following in the footsteps of Ghislaine Maxwell, as she apparently paid Giuffre an undisclosed settlement. Perhaps he'll end up in jail too in due course. Or maybe just house/villa/castle arrest for the rest of his life.
Guilty of what though Jo is the questions isn't it? Being an evil Prince involved in underage trafficking; or for having told porkies about a messy situation that is at best ambiguous, and come to the realisation that for him and his family the is the best way to try and damage limitate. We will, now, never know.
$10 million would be pretty good going for an invented sob story. Or maybe it isn't, since he has settled. Wonder what the money will be spent on. An even bigger villa? A lifetime supply of burgers? Legal fees for the next lawsuit?
A senior palace source told MailOnline today that the compensation figure is believed to be around $10million (£7.5million) - and the deal might only be a 'settlement in principle' at the moment because the sale of Andrew's Swiss chalet has not yet gone through.
Wyot wrote: Jo wrote: Wow. Difficult not to assume guilt now. He seems to be following in the footsteps of Ghislaine Maxwell, as she apparently paid Giuffre an undisclosed settlement. Perhaps he'll end up in jail too in due course. Or maybe just house/villa/castle arrest for the rest of his life.
Guilty of what though Jo is the questions isn't it? Being an evil Prince involved in underage trafficking; or for having told porkies about a messy situation that is at best ambiguous, and come to the realisation that for him and his family the is the best way to try and damage limitate. We will, now, never know.
How can it limit the damage when we are now "sure" that he is a pervert, and every woman he has ever met will be queueing up for a share of the ski-lodge?
We will probably never know for sure how much it took to make the Virginia Giuffre case go away once and for all, although The Telegraph understands it will be more than £12million...
The decision by the royals has sparked some criticism following Andrew's settlement with his sexual assault accuser Virginia Giuffre.
The Queen walked arm-in-arm with Prince Andrew at the memorial for the Duke of Edinburgh, in his first public appearance since reaching the settlement in a US court.