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Topic History of: The Poppy Appeal
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In The Know |
Tony May wrote:
I always appreciate the way you 'shoot from the hip' ITK even though I very rarely agree with your opinions (but we won't go there! (lol))
Life's too short, Tony
I know all I need to know about an event that happened before I was born - an event that the world seemed to have learn nothing from.
I find it all breathtakingly hypocritical - "We will remember them" - but I bet that not a single one of the blazered brigade could even name the LAST British soldier (killed only last week LOL !) |
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Mr Reason |
I support the comments from Mr May.
The whole political and social story of the First World War should be taught and appreciated by future generations as a lesson of how not to repeat history.
The social aspect of 1910's Britain is so alien to the modern citizen, that the appreciation of how politics have changed along with social change and (some may disagree, but....) social mobility has improved, it will all start to create the complex context of the times..........
I very, very much doubt there is any modern day appetite for a Pals Battalion............... |
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steveimp |
I don't think any war is just, because it is simply down to one lot of rich and powerful people falling out with another lot of rich and powerful people. Don't forget that those who served in WW1 were then turned on by their same government in the general strike a few years later.
I also cannot support these current "wars" which are again about oil and where it seems our troops are generally killing brown women and children, and then say how successful those missions are. Maybe we need to think about them. |
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Adolfonso |
In The Know wrote:
Originally launched to help those that survived the first world war, isn't it time we banned this out-dated and irrelevant ritual?
Quite right, and may I praise you, sincerely, for never appearing as if you're obsessed with this issue with a painfully neurotic agenda? |
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Tony May |
JK2006 wrote:
I may be too cynical on this but I always think poppy wearers are more keen on saying "I'm a good person, me, supporting charitable appeals" than in genuinely giving a shit about why dead people died. I bet many of those wearing poppies, ITK, are supporters of our tax monies being used to kill innocent women, children and soldiers in foreign places.
It's OK to kill people, just not OUR people.
A controversial post JK...
I think that you ARE being too cynical about why the majority of people support the poppy appeal but will concede that there are those who simply like to be seen supporting whatever it seems fashionable to support.
As far as your point about tax monies 'being used to kill innocent women, children and soldiers in foreign places' goes I'm not sure that people would connect the two at all. This is not because you are wrong to make that connection but because of our 'selective' reporting in this country these days. I don;t like to see ANYONE get killed but I also cannot hand on heart support our troops all of the time because I honestly don't think they should be deployed where they are and do NOT therefore see us as 'The Good Guys' all of the time. To me, some of the things we get involved with are rather like the story of The American Indians and the 'white man'. We are always fed the story of the Indians being the 'baddies' and the rest of the U.S. citizens and cavalry 'the goodies' but is that, was that really true? I don't think so - the native american indians were there first.
I think more should be done to remind the communities of today about EXACTLY what happened in the First world War and what it meant to the families and loved ones left behind. We are far too disconnected as a society today and the division is becoming wider not closer. |
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