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Topic History of: French Massacre and the need to control Muslim Migration
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hedda |
UK seems to be bursting at seems but...the BIG BUT..when you have a strict Market Economy so beloved of the Tories, New Labour, ITK etc etc you need a lot of new customers all the time for it too work and the natural birth rate is not sufficient.
## except for 9/11 as one incident..in USA more people killed by white non-Muslim Americans every year but certainly in massacres.
## same same Australia where a white blue eyed blonde killed 35 people in one massacre , apart form many small massacres by white angry disturbed men or the other shocking case last month - 8 children killed and their mother & grandmother charged with the murders.
### only one ever incident of a would be terrorist (who turns out to be a criminal on the run) -Lindt Cafe with 1 killed and the other shot by cops. |
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Pattaya |
JK2006 wrote:
As you'll guess I don't agree at all PATT. There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. Good Christians and bad Christians. Good New Zealanders and bad New Zealanders. Good black people and bad black people. Good women and bad women. Immigration control is an answer but not in the way it's done and not for the reasons you say. If we could keep bad people out of the country, we should. But we can't, we never will and it's impossible to spot them. Some terrorists are Muslims. Not all Muslims are terrorists. Some people living in Bolton will become murderers but most won't. Some children with dodgy eyes will go on to be serial killers. Most won't.
We do not have to let any in Mr King,and in a democracy we respect the views of the majority...after all immigration has been listed as equal number one concern for the next election...hence why Cameron is silent on the issue...Clegg is honest,wants more..oh and is in 'wipeout' mode at the polls as a result....and of course Milliband is pretending to be all things to all men etc.
We know which groups work the best,we do not want muslims (except professionals),their record is the worse,we do not want EU Gypos etc...riots and crime for those of us not as rich as yourself to avoid their areas....we can pick and choose....it's just so much easier...and so much safer....let the muslims go to lands where their needs are much better met. |
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JK2006 |
As you'll guess I don't agree at all PATT. There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. Good Christians and bad Christians. Good New Zealanders and bad New Zealanders. Good black people and bad black people. Good women and bad women. Immigration control is an answer but not in the way it's done and not for the reasons you say. If we could keep bad people out of the country, we should. But we can't, we never will and it's impossible to spot them. Some terrorists are Muslims. Not all Muslims are terrorists. Some people living in Bolton will become murderers but most won't. Some children with dodgy eyes will go on to be serial killers. Most won't. |
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Pattaya |
david wrote:
Charlie Hebdo: Brother of killed Algerian police officer says 'do not mix up extremists with Muslims'
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/...muslims-9970046.html
The family of a French police officer of Algerian origin, who was shot dead outside the offices of Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris while he patrolled the streets, urged people “not to confuse extremists with Muslims.â€
In a tearful press conference, the brother of Ahmed Merabet, 42, said they are devastated by the “barbaric†death in the hands of terrorists from the same home country who claim to be acting in accordance with Islam. He added that “mad people†are not of any particular colour or religion.
Dressed in black, Mr Merabet’s wife Morgane stood on his brother Malek’s left and his brother-in-law Lotfi Mabrouk stood on his right. His sisters Myriam and Fouziane were also present
I take from the above article this quote: ' “mad people†are not of any particular colour or religion.'
Think of Anders Breivik, did the media brand him a 'Christian' killer? Think of the American Shoe Bomber, think of Timothy McVeigh....
This has nothing to do with race. Anyone who says it does is guilty not only of an obscene and very selective generalisation, but also of contributing to perpetuating this endless cycle of violence.
Violence begets violence. It isn't rocket science. It is simple cause and effect. The humiliating, crushing defeat of Germany at the treaty of Versailles and the rise of the Nazis are inextricably linked. The West's invasion of expanses of the Middle East, at the same time killing thousands of Iraqis, torturing and humiliating prisoners, all in the name of democracy..... this will inevitably have a knock-on effect. Neither the cause nor the effect are in any way justifiable, but it's like a never-ending round of dominos. Until one side, whichever one it is, breaks the chain, the violence will continue.
To even invoke immigration in this debate is lame.
Race David???...no culture...just because we also have the odd killer amongst our own lot does not mean we have to let others in...we cannot stop our own,but we can stop others coming here to make it worse....especially when they have a history of not mixing well.....
...this has nothing to do with the folly of western politicians,this has to do with pure common sense....most muslims I've known have not integrated well,both here and abroad...the ghettos of immigrants of a certain type,the riots etc...let in those with a proven track record,not those who time after time have failed...and even after a few generations still cannot do it.....without previous muslim immigration we would not have had the Paris terrorists...they simply would not have been there....and what about The British Muslims on 7th July 2005?...If their parents had not been allowed to come here could this have happened?
Last word...by a Muslim cabinet minister..
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2905372...m-says-minister.html |
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Pattaya |
david wrote:
To even invoke immigration in this debate is lame.
Good to see you back David 
Too lazy to argue tonight...but I will when back from my next foreign adventure;) |
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