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Topic History of: Scottish independence.
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Randall Carl wrote:
The whining Jocks can moan all they like, when push comes to Shove the majority haven't got the bollocks to vote in favour of independence from England.

They know where their bread is buttered.


Don't sit on the fence, Carl. Tell us what you really think.

Actually I agree with you.
Spee Fair point - but Sinn Fein's recent electoral gains in Northern Ireland are significant. Now only one seat behind the DUP and both unexpected and unprecedented.

Not long ago, a Belfast Telegraph poll suggested that 70% would vote for a united Ireland - although that result may have been superceded by Brexit.

Another relevant factor is the birth rate!

Much higher in the Catholic (republican) community the the Protestant (unionist) one.


So those in favour of a 32 county nation are numerically increasing faster...



tdf Spee wrote:
PaulB wrote:
An independent Scotland is a romantic fantasy.


As is a united Ireland - but it doesn't mean it won't happen!

The Republic of Ireland was hit very badly by the 2008 recession - and virtually all the banks were bailed out by the EU. Then they were nationalised.

Massive debts are still outstanding and the economy is recovering, very slowly.

Northern Ireland costs the UK Exchequer £12 billion a year, to cover their net deficit.


But notwithstanding all of this - if there was a vote whether or not to have a united Ireland - the answer would be YES...




You're correct about the Irish economy (in fact, all six Irish retail banks required 'bailouts', while the Irish subsidiaries of the UK banks with operations in Ireland also suffered huge losses - in fact, a high % of the losses Royal Bank of Scotland and HBOS suffered were sustained in Ireland!) but I'm not convinced a referendum would pass, as it would require majorities on both sides of the border.
Spee Carl wrote:
The whining Jocks can moan all they like, when push comes to Shove the majority haven't got the bollocks to vote in favour of independence from England.

They know where their bread is buttered.



Well, most of the seats in the Scottish Parliament are held by pro-independence parties - 45% of voters wanted independence in the 2014 referendum, and voted accordingly.


Carl The whining Jocks can moan all they like, when push comes to Shove the majority haven't got the bollocks to vote in favour of independence from England.

They know where their bread is buttered.