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Topic History of: LeavingNeverland : More inconsistencies
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JK2006 Yes I don't like kissing anyone other than lovers on the lips but many do it to everyone - even to their mothers and fathers.
honey!oh sugar sugar. Jo wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Jo wrote:
If he had a predeliction for little boys, what about those who say they were around him as little boys, like McCauley Culkin, and he didn't abuse them? It doesn't make sense that an abuser would only abuse some.

This woman makes some interesting points:
“Do Not Believe The Lies”

Maybe it was completely innocent. His oddness may not have been limited to his appearance. He did have a high-pitched voice. Maybe his children really were his, but they don't seem to look as if they're half black. Arrested development? It's possible that he genuinely liked the company of children rather than for any nefarious reasons.


His father, Joe Jackson, was African and Native American, with "white" relatives further back so it is not impossible that the children are his genetically.

That's interesting. That does sound possible.

Regarding the allegations, this certainly gives me pause: James Safechuck's father says 'there was nothing wrong with it' when Michael Jackson would kiss his son on the lips

Assuming that it's true that Michael Jackson kissed James Safechuck on the lips (it's apparently what a teenage James Safechuck told police in 1993), how can it be explained away as innocent or reliving a missed childhood?


Lots of people kiss children on the lips. I dont know why. It seems an odd thing to do to me, but it depends on your culture, social status and upbringing, I suppose.

I respond to a peck on the lips in greeting from some male friends, but there is nothing sexual in it, and no reason to think kissing children on the lips is sexual either. (unless its a snog)
Jo honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
Jo wrote:
If he had a predeliction for little boys, what about those who say they were around him as little boys, like McCauley Culkin, and he didn't abuse them? It doesn't make sense that an abuser would only abuse some.

This woman makes some interesting points:
“Do Not Believe The Lies”

Maybe it was completely innocent. His oddness may not have been limited to his appearance. He did have a high-pitched voice. Maybe his children really were his, but they don't seem to look as if they're half black. Arrested development? It's possible that he genuinely liked the company of children rather than for any nefarious reasons.


His father, Joe Jackson, was African and Native American, with "white" relatives further back so it is not impossible that the children are his genetically.

That's interesting. That does sound possible.

Regarding the allegations, this certainly gives me pause: James Safechuck's father says 'there was nothing wrong with it' when Michael Jackson would kiss his son on the lips

Assuming that it's true that Michael Jackson kissed James Safechuck on the lips (it's apparently what a teenage James Safechuck told police in 1993), how can it be explained away as innocent or reliving a missed childhood?
honey!oh sugar sugar. Jo wrote:
If he had a predeliction for little boys, what about those who say they were around him as little boys, like McCauley Culkin, and he didn't abuse them? It doesn't make sense that an abuser would only abuse some.

This woman makes some interesting points:
“Do Not Believe The Lies”

Maybe it was completely innocent. His oddness may not have been limited to his appearance. He did have a high-pitched voice. Maybe his children really were his, but they don't seem to look as if they're half black. Arrested development? It's possible that he genuinely liked the company of children rather than for any nefarious reasons.


His father, Joe Jackson, was African and Native American, with "white" relatives further back so it is not impossible that the children are his genetically.
md hedda wrote:
Jo wrote:
If he had a predeliction for little boys, what about those who say they were around him as little boys, like McCauley Culkin, and he didn't abuse them? It doesn't make sense that an abuser would only abuse some.

This woman makes some interesting points:
“Do Not Believe The Lies”

Maybe it was completely innocent. His oddness may not have been limited to his appearance. He did have a high-pitched voice. Maybe his children really were his, but they don't seem to look as if they're half black. Arrested development? It's possible that he genuinely liked the company of children rather than for any nefarious reasons.


there have been no more accusers..I recall in the early 80s working with an Indonesian promoter who was trying to set up a concert with Jackson there and she arranged a conference in a London hotel with a black agent for Jackson. He was about 26 yrs old and the Indonesian promoter who had met Jackson many times said once.."he's Michael's boyfriend and he trusts him"..could have been gossip of course.

by the way despite my obvious brilliance (OK not obvious to many) while I was thinking about these dates because the House Of David stuff was filling my mind and the email exchanges with the historian was all about Jackson's visit and how he showed Michael around the large storage facility describing Michael as like an excited kid....others were way ahead of me on this and it's really become quite a thing with director Dan Reed making a fumbled attempt to justify the dates.

## ideas can be odd..many people can pick up on them at the same time as though they are floating in the ether and ready to pop into people's heads.


Another example: www.bulbs.com/learning/history.aspx