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Topic History of: Brexit Party
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Silent Minority |
Barney wrote:
A view was recently published by an academic at the University of Kent - Professor Matthew Goodwin.
Essentially saying that it is the Tories who will suffer the most, by far, from good results - by the Brexit Party - in a General Election.
Increasing the likelihood of Jeremy Corby becoming prime minister.
Goodwin thinks that the Tories will lose 67 seats, if the Brexit Party achieves 15% of the vote. 81 with 20% - and 117 with 30%.
With even 15%, a number of Tory stalwarts would bite the dust - including Amber Rudd.
At the 2015 election UKIP took votes evenly from both main parties...this time the balance is not even...and makes interesting thoughts from a purely political sense.
1) The Tories silly deal is dead...a leadership candidate not prepared to at minimum remove the backstop will lead the party into electoral oblivion at the next GE....but the Tories are stuffed full of lobby fodder,and leading lights who could never give up Project Fear...Hammond and co being an example...so elect a leader from the MPs who is unelectable by the voters and ordinary members...or vote for one who will deliver,or try to deliver a Brexit...that will prove what fools the leaders were if it succeeds...
2) Labour...More Labour voters voted leave than remain...so sitting on the fence made sense...especially as the fools on the other side of the house were making you look good...because they were so bad....
But now the old and new kids on the block have come to hit you from both sides...The Remain side parties are crowding out each other...splitting the vote...this side is not an option for the tories,but is supported by grassroots and Labour MPs....but not so much by the voters...they have to decide...Corbyn has always been anti EU...and looks a fool when he says otherwise...will he again enough votes with a switch off the fence?
3)Who the fu@k cares?...all my political posts seem to not make the forum anyway... 
A good evening to you Barney...hope you enjoyed some Bank holiday fun.  |
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hedda |
The results are quite interesting.
Seems Brexit have hoovered up not just former UKIP voters (shows how it was really Farage that is the attraction) but also the solid Brexit fans in the Tories and Labour.
One can assume a few things..the low turnout indicates people are turning off both Brexit or Remain or are just no longer that fussed which way it goes. Political fatigue.?
I've said it so many times (to the cat- at least she listens) that Labour Remain fans get it all wrong about Euro Skeptic Jeremy Corbyn who has had to walk a very fine line over Brexit because of the millions of Labour voters who voted either way.
The useless "Rebel Alliance" who waltzed off into eventual oblivion with Chucka Umanna who now looks like the lightweight I always thought he was, and opportunists like Tom Watson simply demand Corbyn alienate millions of Brexit Labour supporters.
Yet it's so bleeding obvious.
And the EU elections show it- normally working class areas who generally support Labour voted in masses for the Brexit party. It shows Corbyn is right not to dismiss Labour Brexit supporters as demanded.
Will they get the message? Doubtful.
Ever so slowly the times keep moving in Corbyn's favour..so expect really fierce media attacks. |
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Barney |
A view was recently published by an academic at the University of Kent - Professor Matthew Goodwin.
Essentially saying that it is the Tories who will suffer the most, by far, from good results - by the Brexit Party - in a General Election.
Increasing the likelihood of Jeremy Corby becoming prime minister.
Goodwin thinks that the Tories will lose 67 seats, if the Brexit Party achieves 15% of the vote. 81 with 20% - and 117 with 30%.
With even 15%, a number of Tory stalwarts would bite the dust - including Amber Rudd.
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Barney |
Currently, the party's opaque funding is being officially looked into.
Several possible backers - with a variety of backgrounds and agendas - have been suggested.
And it's noteworthy that the website taking donations doesn't have any safeguards in place to vet the eligibility of donors.
It will simply take funds from anyone!
Even from its founder, Catherine Blaiklock, who was forced to resign due to extreme anti-Islam tweets.
The candidature and surprising views of Ms Fox have also been the subject of criticism.
However - a simple and easy way to avoid and reduce criticism has been employed by this few months old party.
With only a couple of exceptions, refuse to say what you stand for.
And be unique in not having policies or a manifesto - which can be attacked.
Oh, and don't allow your leader to answer questions about his former views which seem to have radically altered.
Andrew Marr quickly discovered this 'policy' last Sunday morning...
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Barney |
Correct Honey.
Particularly as all (or virtually all) Brexit Party MEPs were elected as members of UKIP.
Nobody knows though if the BP is UKIP II yet, as it hasn't any published purpose, policy or manifesto.
Except the principal and shared goal - with UKIP - of leaving the EU.
If the 37% polls in favour of BP prove to be accurate - the gullibility of the UK electorate will be clearly illustrated...
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