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Topic History of: Epstein and his smiling victims Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
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Jo
Haha! Your comment and hers reminds me of this part of the first chapter of Lake Wobegon Days by Garrison Keillor, where he describes some of the inhabitants of Lake Wobegon.
"... the ladies leaving the Chatterbox Cafe from their tuna sandwich lunch: three old ladies with wispy white hair, in sensible shoes and long print dresses with the waist up under the bosom, and the fourth in a deep purple pant suit and purple pumps, wearing a jet-black wig. She too is seventy but looks like a thirty-four-year-old who led a very hard life. She is Carl Krebsbach's mother, Myrtle..."
Maria Farmer is claiming to have been "traded and trafficked by the dean" (presumably of her art school) to Epstein and Maxwell. "i looked like a very young girl even though I was 25".
Nothing changes the fact they were HOOKERS hooked on the High Life.
And Epstein was NOT a pedophile. Maybe a bit sleazy and devoid of taste given the pictures of his ghastly house which my dear pal New Your snapper Patrick McMullan had been to twice for parties (and agrees) and who is currently make an absolute fortune as his pics of Epstein & Maxwell feature in 100s of newspapers daily arounfd the world.
## good show too-there's no other work in NYC !
And devoid of taste given the ghastliness of his most vocal accuser who it cannot be ignored- has now switched her attacks onto Maxwell.
## Wonder how her kids in Queensland are handling all this?
This was taken at Ghislaine Maxwell's home, according to the article. As Prince Andrew was a friend of hers, there is no reason why he shouldn't have been there or run into her there and she asked him for a photo.
It shows too that she was on good terms with her mother (no runaway scenario) and her access to her mother was not being controlled by Epstein and Maxwell. In which case, if she was unhappy or frightened, she could have asked her mother for help.
In my view it's possible that she was having such a good time that she wouldn't even have considered that she might have been 'trafficked' until years later when someone with an agenda suggested it to her. With the passage of time one does look back on one's youth and acknowledge that there are some cringeworthy events that seemed like a good idea at the time.
That's an interesting photo and good points, Sheba. I tend to think she's lying about Prince Andrew, not just because the smiling face doesn't seem to reflect disgust but in particular since Alan Dershowitz says she's lying about him and has lied about others. I've no idea how Prince Andrew organises his sex life, but to use Ghislaine Maxwell as a go-between, having her order Roberts to sleep with him, seems rather odd. Surely if he was dancing at Tramp with her he could have asked her himself. Or maybe she asked him?!
"UK-based Vassi Chamberlain said young women wouldn't respect formalities and hugged 'darling Andy'...Ms Chamberlain, who spoke to more than 30 of his friends for the article, claimed that many - including one of his former lovers - said he 'always chased a sh*g'."