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Topic History of: Cull of cats and dogs
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Wyot |
Simon Cameron wrote:
A quick science lesson:
Adapting the new Pfizer vaccine to deal with the newer strains evolving in minks shouldn’t be much of an issue, just like it isn’t for flu
Inaccurate.
The concern about the new variant in mink is that it doesn't respond sufficiently to Covid 19 antibodies. Therefore it matters not which groundbreaking method is used, because vaccinations work by the creation of effective antibodies.
You would need to start again on a new vaccine. The UK 2017-18 flu season (deadly as Covid so far, but responded to differently) illustrates that this is a problem for flu, as it will be for Covid.
The vaccine is great news, but unless we learn from how we responded to Covid as a society and individuals, we will be trapped in endless cycles of Govs pretending they can act to protect us from every new threat, while continuing to ignore all the established ways to die that kill far more than the threat. |
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JK2006 |
Thank you for the lesson Simon. I assume this means we are in no danger of viruses working out how to avoid these clever vaccines? I always thought Mother Nature was far ahead of us mere humans and that the next pandemic will require a similar approach to beating it. I just hope, for the sake of humanity, that next one does not have the lethal qualities of, say, Ebola combined with the infectious skills of Covid19 and a new way of avoiding human vaccines! |
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Simon Cameron |
Viruses mutate all the time Kenneth; the secret of a vaccine lies in the vaccine’s methodology of attack, which is why flu vaccines are updated every year without having to carry out years of new research.
A quick science lesson:
This new COVID-19 vaccine has a very novel approach of attack: once injected it inspires our cells to produce the spike protein of COVID-19, and nothing else. Our bodies will will then produce antibodies and activate T-cells to destroy the cells containing the newly created spike proteins. This process trains our bodies to fight off the full blown COVID-19 should we get infected, by destroying the cells it infects. Extensive trials have shown that it is effective in 90% of people. The methodology is said to be so groundbreaking that it will be used to develop vaccines for other viruses containing spike proteins. You see, the method being deployed here is to exploit the characteristics of the spike protein itself. Adapting the new Pfizer vaccine to deal with the newer strains evolving in minks shouldn’t be much of an issue, just like it isn’t for flu vaccines.
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Wyot |
Honey - yes this is one of the gems of Wonderland isn't it? We can kill ourselves with certainty, but a lonely old person in a care home can't decide to take the small risk of seeing their loved ones. That right, of course, has been removed by our wonderful Government.
GM - talking of our wonderful Government one thing we can depend on is that if they say something won't happen it will, and if it will happen it won't. They are admirably consistent on this.
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Green Man |
Wyot wrote:
I can see family pets in the firing line soon, but you may be stirring the pot somewhat with humans!
I can't read BBC news this morning. Unemployment is up, children's development shot and mental health in crisis all because of Covid, apparently.
This must be deliberate surely? It is lockdown that causes this stuff. Beeb now just the PR arm of this comic-tragic Government.
There's a vaccine soon, says the government.  |
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