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Wyot |
Commander wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
Now we must wait to see whether Brexit (which we, the electorate, selected) will cost us even more.
Those who voted for Brexit won't really get what they thought they voted for. The deal will see to that. And it won't act to take Britain backwards in time socially to about 1950; so they will still be unhappy about all that.
Sturgeon is now on the warpath to either give Scotland independent glory/break up "Balkanise" the UK depending on your point of view.
Any understanding of 20th century history - economic catastrophe with revived nationalism - should tell us to be worried about the direction we are heading in across Europe right now.
The increasing authoritarianism of our Gov may also not have been born through malevolent intent (just panic and stupidity) but it will prove very useful to them going forward. Govs who gain powers seldom hand them back.
I find it so frustrating that so many are currently content to give up freedoms they don't seem to understand the history of and take so carelessly for granted. |
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Commander |
Wyot wrote:
After a year of hearing about Covid we have this tiresome hit air to now look forward to.
Brexit was with us long before Covid was heard of - and Brexit actually happened nearly a year ago.
However, Covid (self-inflicted!) has cost us dear first - to the tune of several hundred billion pounds.
Now we must wait to see whether Brexit (which we, the electorate, selected) will cost us even more. |
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Wyot |
No one will be satisfied. This will run for years more...
There will be a last minute deal because while the Gov aren't competent or honorable, they aren't actually insane.
The Brexiteers will be up in arms crying betrayal! The Remainers jumping on every problem and evidence of economic decline like told-you-so vultures!
After a year of hearing about Covid we have this tiresome hit air to now look forward to. Like the Covid reaction, all uneccesary and self-inflicted.
For the first time in my adult life I have stopped buying a paper. |
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Green Man |
Commander wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
you know Boris; he only espoused Brexit to become PM; of course he'll do a deal (giving away anything the EU wants)
I agree that a deal will be done - simply because of the chaos which would ensue without one.
Four weeks before the deadline, businesses - particularly - are living in an information vacuum, which makes it impossible to plan for the future.
Key issues remain unresolved - as well as the main ones concerning governance, fisheries and the level playing field.
Theses key issues include:-
Tax. Will businesses have to pay VAT on goods at the point of import, and will service firms need to register in every EU Member State where they have clients?
Tariffs. What will Rules of Origin forms have to be complied with to receive preferential tariff rates?
Customs. Will goods be subject to new procedures at border checkpoints?
Regulation. Will checks on goods conducted in the UK be recognised by the EU?
Mobility. Will businesses be able to transfer staff between the EU and the UK using the same procedures as currently?
R&D Projects. Will UK businesses be able to participate in EU projects after 2020?
And there are hundreds more - making the already complex existences of British businesses impossible.
But, of course, many matters remain outstanding also for the tourist and private traveller.
If they weren't bickering and busy having elections since Cameron then all this could of been done and dusted. Then again when has any government actually been organized with an action plan. |
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Commander |
JK2006 wrote:
you know Boris; he only espoused Brexit to become PM; of course he'll do a deal (giving away anything the EU wants)
I agree that a deal will be done - simply because of the chaos which would ensue without one.
Four weeks before the deadline, businesses - particularly - are living in an information vacuum, which makes it impossible to plan for the future.
Key issues remain unresolved - as well as the main ones concerning governance, fisheries and the level playing field.
Theses key issues include:-
Tax. Will businesses have to pay VAT on goods at the point of import, and will service firms need to register in every EU Member State where they have clients?
Tariffs. What will Rules of Origin forms have to be complied with to receive preferential tariff rates?
Customs. Will goods be subject to new procedures at border checkpoints?
Regulation. Will checks on goods conducted in the UK be recognised by the EU?
Mobility. Will businesses be able to transfer staff between the EU and the UK using the same procedures as currently?
R&D Projects. Will UK businesses be able to participate in EU projects after 2020?
And there are hundreds more - making the already complex existences of British businesses impossible.
But, of course, many matters remain outstanding also for the tourist and private traveller. |
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