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[b]hedda wrote:[/b]
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[quote][b]robbiex wrote:[/b]
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There are other things about conservatives than low taxes, such as being tough on crime, and the belief, despite overwhelming evidence that longer prison sentences act as a deterrent to serious crime. Does it work, no, but that isn't important, it wins votes. Labour also seems to be adopting this longer sentence nonsense. I think the best solution to cut down on offending is education. 40% of people in prison are illiterate.[/quote]

Totally agree with you Robbie about education and rehabilitation rather than longer sentences.

I basically think that prisons should be vastly scaled down and used to keep detained only a small number of seriously dangerous individuals. But detained humanely and with as much dignity as possible.

On the other point, the Conservatives don't do anything about [i]most[/i] crime.  London stinks of skunk, shoplifters and burglars go about their business largely untroubled. Anti social behaviour (much of it now criminal) goes unchallenged by all and Police are nowhere to be seen. They have deserted our streets.

As for white collar crime...

Absolutely none of them are "tough on crime" whatsoever.[/quote]

my friend did 18 months in Norway for a fake bank robbery (set up a dummy in a chair with a broom handle pointed at the bank opposite and phoned the manager who responded to the threat..[i]"your associate has just fallen over and collapsed[/i]" :silly: ..any how he was allowed to work on a new enterprise in jail which he did and came out and became their biggest video importer.[/quote]

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Wyot	hedda wrote: [quote]Wyot wrote: [quote]robbiex wrote: [quote]Wyot wrote: [quote]robbiex wrote: my friend did 18 months in Norway for a fake bank robbery (set up a dummy in a chair with a broom handle pointed at the bank opposite and phoned the manager who responded to the threat.."your associate has just fallen over and collapsed" ..any how he was allowed to work on a new enterprise in jail which he did and came out and became their biggest video importer. Well he sounds very innovative and I am happy to learn his talents transferred successfully to a legitimate occupation!
Green Man	hedda wrote: [quote]Wyot wrote: [quote]robbiex wrote: Wyot wrote: robbiex wrote: There are other things about conservatives than low taxes, such as being tough on crime, and the belief, despite overwhelming evidence that longer prison sentences act as a deterrent to serious crime. Does it work, no, but that isn't important, it wins votes. Labour also seems to be adopting this longer sentence nonsense. I think the best solution to cut down on offending is education. 40% of people in prison are illiterate. Totally agree with you Robbie about education and rehabilitation rather than longer sentences. I basically think that prisons should be vastly scaled down and used to keep detained only a small number of seriously dangerous individuals. But detained humanely and with as much dignity as possible. On the other point, the Conservatives don't do anything about most crime. London stinks of skunk, shoplifters and burglars go about their business largely untroubled. Anti social behaviour (much of it now criminal) goes unchallenged by all and Police are nowhere to be seen. They have deserted our streets. As for white collar crime... Absolutely none of them are "tough on crime" whatsoever. my friend did 18 months in Norway for a fake bank robbery (set up a dummy in a chair with a broom handle pointed at the bank opposite and phoned the manager who responded to the threat.."your associate has just fallen over and collapsed" ..any how he was allowed to work on a new enterprise in jail which he did and came out and became their biggest video importer. Weren't the Triads the biggest in the UK? I vaguely remember seeing a lot of pirate tapes under the counters in the takeaways or films played on a TV combi.
hedda	Wyot wrote: [quote]robbiex wrote: [quote]Wyot wrote: robbiex wrote: There are other things about conservatives than low taxes, such as being tough on crime, and the belief, despite overwhelming evidence that longer prison sentences act as a deterrent to serious crime. Does it work, no, but that isn't important, it wins votes. Labour also seems to be adopting this longer sentence nonsense. I think the best solution to cut down on offending is education. 40% of people in prison are illiterate. Totally agree with you Robbie about education and rehabilitation rather than longer sentences. I basically think that prisons should be vastly scaled down and used to keep detained only a small number of seriously dangerous individuals. But detained humanely and with as much dignity as possible. On the other point, the Conservatives don't do anything about most crime. London stinks of skunk, shoplifters and burglars go about their business largely untroubled. Anti social behaviour (much of it now criminal) goes unchallenged by all and Police are nowhere to be seen. They have deserted our streets. As for white collar crime... Absolutely none of them are "tough on crime" whatsoever. my friend did 18 months in Norway for a fake bank robbery (set up a dummy in a chair with a broom handle pointed at the bank opposite and phoned the manager who responded to the threat.."your associate has just fallen over and collapsed" ..any how he was allowed to work on a new enterprise in jail which he did and came out and became their biggest video importer.
Green Man	I think tax is the biggest crime there, we never asked for it nor do we consent to have our hard earned taken away cocaine fuelled twits in suits.
Green Man	Wyot wrote: [quote]robbiex wrote: [quote]Wyot wrote: robbiex wrote: There are other things about conservatives than low taxes, such as being tough on crime, and the belief, despite overwhelming evidence that longer prison sentences act as a deterrent to serious crime. Does it work, no, but that isn't important, it wins votes. Labour also seems to be adopting this longer sentence nonsense. I think the best solution to cut down on offending is education. 40% of people in prison are illiterate. Totally agree with you Robbie about education and rehabilitation rather than longer sentences. I basically think that prisons should be vastly scaled down and used to keep detained only a small number of seriously dangerous individuals. But detained humanely and with as much dignity as possible. On the other point, the Conservatives don't do anything about most crime. London stinks of skunk, shoplifters and burglars go about their business largely untroubled. Anti social behaviour (much of it now criminal) goes unchallenged by all and Police are nowhere to be seen. They have deserted our streets. As for white collar crime... Absolutely none of them are "tough on crime" whatsoever. And you asked me why I don't believe in God.