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Topic History of: Climate Change
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Green Man |
If it wasn't for cars and space travel the woolly mammoth may had the chance to survive.  |
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Rich |
As someone with an amateur meteorological background I will say this - Climate change exists.
BUT...
It's always existed, either cooling or warming over not just millennia but tens of millions and more years. It's normal.
It was so warm even in Northern England in the 1200's that grapes grew and there were vineyards in Northumberland. Then between 1450 and 1850 we had four centuries known as the "little ice age". There were a staggering amount of consecutive severe winters in the late 1680's and through the 1690's clumped together.
Some talk of the industrial revolution in the early 19th century but industrialisation did not cause the 13th century warm period. Sun spot activity and the changes to the sun itself are thought to cause alterations to earths climate, far more significantly than human beings could ever hope to with all our emissions. Another thing, just one huge volcanic eruption can have significant cooling effects on earth, look up the year without a summer in 1816.
What I'd like to know is why the narrative shifted so suddenly almost overnight around about 1989/90 at the time when there was concern about the ozone layer and CFC's in aerosols creating a hole over the antarctic. That hole has now gone by the way, the ozone layer is mostly recovered.
Why am I currently looking at an old Environmental Studies schoolbook dated April 1982 where in my own handwriting I had to copy down the following words - "Many scientists around the world are becoming increasingly concerned at the most recent data we have avaialble suggesting the world is rapidly cooling and the real emerging possibility of a new major ice age on earth coming by the year 2050". Good old net zero year.
How come this was what I was taught only as recently as 1982? It's so totally the opposite to the prevailing narrative now, it couldn't be more opposite. It's easy to find many articles up to the 1980's about our cooling world and impending ice age on the front of some very well known magazines.
Science is never settled, and neither is the climate, and neither are politicians. It's politics more than science that is driving the current narrative. |
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Green Man |
The rainforest has been bastardise by giant corporations. I shudder to think how many trees were cut down for trashy novels, boring autobiographies and porn mags.
Let us not forget millions of shitty record sleeves for crappy records that were released and printed in the 70s. |
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Downing Street Cat |
My only real concern are the rainforests. The Earth's lungs. Without lungs we die. And the bushfires heve been quite devastating across the globe. |
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JK2006 |
My feelings are that clearly human behaviour has something to do with climate change but far less than claimed - the Universe is constantly changing, will continue to do so and not burning coal is a tiny part of change. Some things require urgent attention (plastic in seas) and such matters as using less oil makes sense but 99% of the answer to climate change is adapting to the future developments. Build towns and cities in more sensible places. Use and incorporate trees, seas, deserts etc. ADAPT is far more important than CHANGE. |
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