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Topic History of: just endless lies
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hedda |
Of course the current war was kicked off by Hamas brutal actions.
But Netanyahu has used it as an excuse to raise Gaza to the ground and commit a genocide on the Palestinian people, especially the children.
And the crazed settlers have used it as an excuse to freely kill in the West Bank- they are never brought to account.. and now we known the true intentions of Trump and the Israelis.
Now it has become clear they want to ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank and force neighboring countries to adsorb 2 million people.
Trump truly is a monster. |
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Wyot |
hedda wrote:
Wyot wrote:
hedda wrote:
Plenty of vision of the released Israeli hostages shows them to be smiling (I suppose they would under any circumstances) and rosy faces, all seemingly have put on weight.
They even. bizarrely, carried "gift bags" from Hamas.
Oh Hedda seriously...
I am as appalled by the Israeli response as anyone but you are better than than this...
But what I said is fact. I suppose an inaccurate image could be created. But Israel lies always..false accusations of rape (while openly admitting to using rape of Palestinians in jails) and falsehoods of decapitated babies with Biden bizarrely saying he saw the photos yet Israel finally admitted it was a false claim.
How the Israeli hostages look is a contrast to how the Palestinian "prisoners" look, skinny, gaunt and haunted. The Israelis actually admit they keep them in terrible conditions on purpose and for years without charge.
And this is not support for Hamas but Hamas is the result of the decades of how Israel has treated Palestinians and the numerous Israeli killings without ever being held to account. It's what happens.
I don't disagree with what you are saying about Israel Hedda, though we have to be cautious about media coverage, written and visual. Similarly regarding the much covered horrors committed by Hamas; a vile death cult.
However, I think the accumulatedweight of commentators (or posts) becomes problematic when only one side is ever mentioned pejoratively; because the effect is to "sanitise" the other side, even if unintentionally.
Yes some Israelis can persecute Palestinians on a scale that some (Hamas) Palestinians can't persecute Israelis - because they don't have the might. Scale driven by resources (not morality) is the only distinction.
Hamas would blow Israel off the map tomorrow if able to.
Whatever the reality about who started what, the situation can only improve if no ground is given when faced with evil. Both sides should be consistently called out. |
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hedda |
Wyot wrote:
hedda wrote:
Plenty of vision of the released Israeli hostages shows them to be smiling (I suppose they would under any circumstances) and rosy faces, all seemingly have put on weight.
They even. bizarrely, carried "gift bags" from Hamas.
Oh Hedda seriously...
I am as appalled by the Israeli response as anyone but you are better than than this...
But what I said is fact. I suppose an inaccurate image could be created. But Israel lies always..false accusations of rape (while openly admitting to using rape of Palestinians in jails) and falsehoods of decapitated babies with Biden bizarrely saying he saw the photos yet Israel finally admitted it was a false claim.
How the Israeli hostages look is a contrast to how the Palestinian "prisoners" look, skinny, gaunt and haunted. The Israelis actually admit they keep them in terrible conditions on purpose and for years without charge.
And this is not support for Hamas but Hamas is the result of the decades of how Israel has treated Palestinians and the numerous Israeli killings without ever being held to account. It's what happens.
And now we know what Trump had planned all along. Ethnic Cleansing on steroids.
I wonder how he's going to bully Egypt and Jordon.
If he can threaten peaceful Denmark over Greenland like a Mafia kingpin.."nice country you have there, shame if something happened to it" God only knows what he has in mind for Jordon and Egypt. |
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Wyot |
Rich wrote:
Nearly 9 years later.
I'm beginning to think that some people will still be angry and wanting to discuss the Brexit vote even if we end up rejoining and even re-Brexiting yet again in the future.
None of the current doom about our country has anything to do with the fact we are no longer in the European Union. But we are still a European nation and I am very happy we are.
I'm not angry at all about Brexit Rich just expressing my views on an issue that, along with others not solely, is a current reason for our malaise. |
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hedda |
So it looks like Trump's deportation of illegal immigrants is just another giant scam from the con artist.
His ICE agents are only targeting blue (Democrat) Sates when the vast bulk of immigrants are in Republican Florida and Texas.
And his efforts so far have not equaled Biden's efforts and certainly not the King of deportations who no-one has yet matched, Barack O'Bama.
The Comb Over Crybaby has to date deported around 500 a day while Biden during 4 years deported about 600 a day. Biden had over 400 flights alone to Colombia during 4 years.
I reckon Trump will ignore the vast industry of over a million illegal migrant workers in the Southern states after initially freaking them out.
Business as usual. |
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