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Topic History of: Record January warrmth puzzles climate scientists Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
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Rich
Angel is quite correct about the climate in the far north of England back in the 1200's with grapevines, places like Northumberland actually had a climate at that time along the lines of the Mediterranean, and it wasn't caused by the mass burning of fossil fuels.
Then we had what was called the "Little Ice Age" which took place a couple of hundred years after that and lasted roughly 400 years from 1450 to 1850. The Thames froze over frequently. Many of the UK's harshest winters of the last millennium occured in the late 17th century all close together during the 1680's and 1690's.
As I've said before, why was I being taught in the 1970's and 1980's that climate science was suggesting there would be a new ice age cometh by about 2050 only for another impending freeze to suddenly become a furnace instead?
Nobody is now allowed to question the current narrative and what can be more unhealthy or dangerous than scientific closed minds. Scepticism is healthy, it's not ignorance.
Green Man
Angel wrote: How arrogant of us, as a species, to assume we have any part in climate change or can reverse it being "green." As has been said already, climate has fluctuated since forever. You could grow grapes in England in the 12th century!
If I remember rightly didn't Romans also grow and plant oranges in England? They must have been boiling in their sweat.
Angel
How arrogant of us, as a species, to assume we have any part in climate change or can reverse it being "green." As has been said already, climate has fluctuated since forever. You could grow grapes in England in the 12th century!
Wyot
Rich wrote: I know the difference between "climate" and "the weather" Wyot, I've been taking data since I was 12 years old and still do so.
Why ask the question you did then Rich if you already knew the answer?
Rich
I know the difference between "climate" and "the weather" Wyot, I've been taking data since I was 12 years old and still do so.
Not everyone with a meteorological background or amateur interest has swallowed the entire narrative you know. Yes, climate change exists but climate has always ebbed and flowed from heat to cold and we've been hotter in the recent past without industrialisation to blame.
There is a very strong case to say that in a warming world where it gets noticeably hotter, the UK could infact go the other way and become a very much colder country with long freezing snowy winters like Canada at the same latitude as us, do you know why?
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