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Topic History of: Reform
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Rich |
hedda wrote:
Yes I see Rich..the seats gained on the votes cast is way out of proportion.
It's that rotten first past the post system that gets a party win when the majority don't want it.
Look at Labour under Starmer. No party can claim on honest mandate.
Yet the irony of the much maligned first past the post system that the Lib Dems have always wanted scrapped because it harms their chances is that at the last election they had nothing to complain about because first past the post provided them with roughly the amount of MP's their vote percentage should have done.
No party should be able to govern outright in such a strong position on only 33% vote share or 20% of registered electors. The vast majority of this country are clearly anti-Labour/Starmer, and that is after the amazing collapse of the Tories!
Just another word on Farage, and even when I'm a supporter of people I am still prepared to be fearless in calling them out on things, something a lot of lefty types should learn to do as well, Farage said that he never falls out with people, they fall out with him. That was disingenuous and a very silly thing to try and get away with in his defence. He dooes himself no favours trying to pull that one off with his cheeky "who me" smile. |
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Green Man |
Rich wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Farage is both a grifter and an establishment shill.
He has done numerous U-turns over the years in interviews, even when he was an MEP.
I have watched on GB News very closely, he has done a shit load of back peddling since his show started. He wanted mass deportation now he does not, he hates the working classes despite putting on the working class hero mask.
Love him or hate him by Tommy Robinson has done more about the grooming gangs more than any MP and police officer.
The police, media and MPs only took notice of the gangs when Tommy was getting traction. The media still called him a racist and Jeremy Paxman saying the Muslim grooming gangs don't exist. 
Only a handful of presenters were willing to interview Tommy but the suits at GB News refused. I thought they they were the "home for free speech".
Tommy Robinson is being held at high security HMP Woodhill which is only a couple of miles from me. One of my childhood friends is actually a prisoner officer & dog handler there. He's mixing it with the likes of Ian Huntley and Michael Sams, remember him? Robinson not even close to being in the same league as these beasts. Not only is Robinson in solitary confinement, something he did not request for his own safety but was imposed on him in ways it's not on multiple killers and kidnappers there, but if you are lucky enough to get a rare visit to see him you have to sign an NDA as a visitor. Have you ever heard of prison visitors having to sign non disclosure agreements before?
Tommy shouldn't be in prison at all for mentioning the elephant in the room, he is being set up by the establishment - they don't want to kill him but they want him to do himself in by doing mental torture.
Tommy is not eating prison food and who can blame him, there is God's know-what in prison food. It's known that rat droppings and broken glass do go in breakfast and pies. If Tommy goes on to another prison or wing he will be on the nonces wing which means he will be with very depraved people who even share their prison files with other inmates.
Prisoners are/were allowed to see their files which have evidence of their computers or photos, always get passed around the prison wing like sweets.
Getting placed in the nonce wing is also a form of torture if you are not a nonce. |
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hedda |
Yes I see Rich..the seats gained on the votes cast is way out of proportion.
It's that rotten first past the post system that gets a party win when the majority don't want it.
Look at Labour under Starmer. No party can claim on honest mandate. |
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Rich |
Green Man wrote:
Farage is both a grifter and an establishment shill.
He has done numerous U-turns over the years in interviews, even when he was an MEP.
I have watched on GB News very closely, he has done a shit load of back peddling since his show started. He wanted mass deportation now he does not, he hates the working classes despite putting on the working class hero mask.
Love him or hate him by Tommy Robinson has done more about the grooming gangs more than any MP and police officer.
The police, media and MPs only took notice of the gangs when Tommy was getting traction. The media still called him a racist and Jeremy Paxman saying the Muslim grooming gangs don't exist.
Only a handful of presenters were willing to interview Tommy but the suits at GB News refused. I thought they they were the "home for free speech".
Tommy Robinson is being held at high security HMP Woodhill which is only a couple of miles from me. One of my childhood friends is actually a prisoner officer & dog handler there. He's mixing it with the likes of Ian Huntley and Michael Sams, remember him? Robinson not even close to being in the same league as these beasts. Not only is Robinson in solitary confinement, something he did not request for his own safety but was imposed on him in ways it's not on multiple killers and kidnappers there, but if you are lucky enough to get a rare visit to see him you have to sign an NDA as a visitor. Have you ever heard of prison visitors having to sign non disclosure agreements before? |
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Rich |
hedda wrote:
What's odd is the inexplicable amount of airtime Reform and Farage get for a very minor political party.
Why not the Lib Dems as the third biggest party ?..nary a word from them in the media.
And The Greens for that matter, just one less than Reform.
It's very disproportionate and the BBC is as bad as the rest of the media.
Reform got many more votes than the Lib Dems at the election though, yet got 72 seats to 5. That's what is disproportionate.
GM I am becoming slightly more convinced of your arguments on Farage but he's still the best option to me, although I could happily take Rupert Lowe but would really rate Ben Habib myself who is the one who really impresses me.
One of the polls yesterday suggested Reform could get 184 seats based on an election today. Meaningless to me at this point. It also showed Labour losing nearly 200 seats. But the trouble was that doing the arithmatic you could still get over about 300 seats with Labour and Lib Dems so all that suggested to me was a Lab Lib coalition even if Reform did that spectacularly well, because even adding the Tories meant they couldn't get past the Lab Lib number based on that poll. I know a lot of people keep talking up Farage as next PM by 2029, but that would not be outright for Reform but in coalition, however I think many people are having their heads turned at the moment and are daydreaming some wild fantasies about that. I'd bet the house that it won't happen and I think Farage knows it too deep down.
What shocks me most about Farage is his lack of judgement over Rupert Lowe and his willingness to air the dirty laundry all out and loud in public rather than sort it like grown men behind closed doors, thus proving that Reform are just the same as all the other squabbling parties like the Tories, infact far worse because they've managed it with just 5 MP's, Christ knows how he'd manage with 300 of them!
Withdrawing the whip so Rupert sits as an independent is such a betrayal of the Reform voters who took a chance on him. What is it nowadays about all the parties being so keen to withdraw the whip from their MP's and make them independent? |
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