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Topic History of: Pubs closing in droves - as predicted by posters here
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Foz |
Pubs have been closing in droves for years - there was a programme I watched in relation to it 5 or 6 years ago - a long time before the ban. The main reason was that brewrey's who often owned the pubs charged too much rent to the publican who ran them. The pubs closed and either another publican moved in or the brewry closed it and made it into offices or flats or bulldozed it for development. There was a pub near me that had a new publican each year because they couldnt afford the extortionate rent or the excessive demands.
Okay the smoking ban didnt help, but there are other pubs that still do very good business - they have to adapt to changing conditions like all other businesses. |
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zooloo |
If a publican has failed to adapt to the changing market and goes out of business the fault is changing market's. |
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Anthony |
The Cat wrote:
As one poster on that thread says, good pubs will survive.
The most popular pubs will survive, but that by no means equates to the good ones. The trendy city pubs, rammed with youngsters, and selling rubbish lagers at inflated prices seem to be doing fine. It is the good traditional pubs, selling real ale and appealing more to people of my age group which are closing left right and centre.
I know this isn't entirely down to the smoking ban and there are shifts in social trends, but most pubs were holding it together. It was immediately after the ban that I noticed a decline, and statistics clearly suggest this. It is the smoking ban which has tipped many pubs over the edge. |
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The Cat |
I did say the views were varied. I know it's not all about the smoking ban. That was a point I made. You quote one poster who says pubs closed from the moment the smoking ban was introduced. I quote one which says the opposite. People's reactions vary and I can only really go by my own experience which shows that pubs in my area have not been effected by the ban.
I don't think that reversing the ban will get people back in pubs. The decline of some pubs pre-dates the ban and is due to various factors from bad management to changes in our lifestyles.
As one poster on that thread says, good pubs will survive. |
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In The Know |
That thread was about pubs closing in general - not specifically about the smoking ban.
You must have missed the post by Classic Rock - A solution to get people back into pubs would be to reverse the smoking ban. I'm a non smoker myself, but from the moment that the ban was introduced trade dropped in pubs. |
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