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[b]zooloo wrote:[/b]
[quote]I only asked for definition in context of other's asking anyone to disprove &quot;God&quot;. Before an attempt can be made to prove or disprove a thing it's prudent to define what the object is.

In the case of your version it's not something that can be proved/disproved as it's naming part of a process. As you're not demanding one's behaviour should be modified according to this &quot;God&quot; the existence, real or convenient, doesn't really matter.

BR mentions a force or person beyond our comprehension.

Even if that person/force is as you claim incomprehensible it's effect would not be. As there is no evident consistent effect it is reasonable to believe there is no singular cause.

Basing our lives on the teaching of somebody like Jesus I think would be the highest folly. For example I don't think we should hate our parents nor do I think we should kill people who don't believe what we do.

Part of Jesus's teaching, such as where he echoes Cicero on not harbouring animosity I do agree with but on the whole I think Jesus is a good example of why we shouldn't follow one person's view wholesale.

Jesus's teachings are not entirely bad but they aren't entirely good either.

Again you bring up that you are yet to find somebody who can disprove God (Which were I came in :)) I am happy to give this a go.

The first step is for you to define &quot;God&quot; please.

(I'm assuming your &quot;God&quot; is the one of the Old Testament but it may be you view that one as either literal or symbolic)[/quote]

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Topic History of: God
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zooloo	No it's not impossible to prove or disprove the existence of a god... first define the god
JK2006	I would agree - it is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God. It has to be a matter of belief or disbelief - or, in my case, happily agnostic. I used to have many arguments with my atheist Mum that disbelief is as strange as belief - only an open mind can and should exist on the subject. I've spoken to God and he agrees. Check out his website - www.KingOfHits.com
zooloo	ETA - rather than write "You don't know what it is" I should have written "You can't say what it is" that I am expected to disprove.
zooloo	In short God = I don't know. Surely it's an impossible task to ask someone to disprove something that you don't know what it is?
JK2006	Well Zoo, for me the fact that human beings do not have the capacity to understand the original force defines GOD. It is something beyond our comprehension. Who knows, ants may not be able to understand Darwinian evolution - they may be even further down the chain of comprehension. Or they may understand better the original force which created life. It is something we cannot know so choose, sometimes, to believe. I live my life according to what I can see, feel, touch, observe... so, to me, the incomprehensible doesn't matter. That's why I'm an ITDOESNTMATTERist. And it means I don't disbelieve either (that's just a version of belief - atheism). I don't know. I may or may not be informed after death. Who cares? It is not, incidentally, a PART of the process; it is the START of the process. We can understand the Universe. But what is OUTSIDE the universe?