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Topic History of: Justice Secretary looks at Jade Goody's fiance's conditions...
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veritas	I'd disagree that we are "selective" although it's a good starting point for a discussion. One of my big complaints is that the laws about sex are confusing, unworkable and mainly the result of sensatonalism and emotionalism propagated in the media and politicians reacting to the taboids-the lowest common demoninator. The Netherlands had excellent laws on sexual activity (as only that odd country which is deeply conservative yet has fine civil rights)used to have-before EU pessure began to water them down. It meant that a whole host of factors would be taken into account when someone underage had sex with an older person..whether there was cohersion or pressure-if it was a genuine relationship and so on. Judges had discretion on sentences and often didn't impose one at all. Social workers would examine the case and advise accordingly. In other words the law was based on REALITY-that people will do what they want and human desires cannot be ruled by the law. There is much nonsense based on the concept a young person canot give consent-this is rubbish as the differing ages of consent in some countries demonstrate. Why is a 15 year old in Germany or a 13 year old in Italy, or a 14 year old in Spain or the USA state of New Mexico-a 16 year old in Australia and the UK (but both 18 years old until recently) considered to be different. One is a child in one country but can hop on a plane and be an adult within hours. I've written to so many government Minsiters whose prtofolio covers this are to explain the concept of differing ages and why a person will be called a pedofile one day yet when the age of consent is downgraded say from 18 to 16-why they are no longer considered one. I genuinely want an explanation-none has ever replied which demonstrates they have no concept themselves. The media perpetuates a myth that one day all crime will cease if only pliticins and the courts will "get tough" Politicians react like donkeys. Yet it's within the interests of the media for crime and sensationalism to continue-it merely means profi to them. Which brings me to my further complaint-child abuse is rampant throughout the western world..via neglect, physical and mental abuse..and sexual but the sexual part is actually the least of real abuse cases. And this is largely ignored by governments. Yet in third world countries amongst the most poorest-families can be happy and care for their childen lovingly.
JK2006	I love him too. Class act.
The Fat Controller	news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7901685.stm Quiet dignity, wonderful smile (no histrionics on GMTV)... and the greatest manager England has ever had! He's worth one zillion Jade Goody's!!
emmapeelfanclub	I echo The Fat Controller's feelings on the Jade Goody "freakshow". Max Clifford should be hung, drawn and quartered, slowly and painfully. It's rare I ever get vitriolic about anybody but Clifford and Jackboot Jacqui bring out the worst in me. Jade is just one of THOUSANDS terminally ill. Do all those who are not "celebrities" carry on like Jade and Clifford? No. They live their final months or years with quiet dignity, not use the meejah to cash in big time. What I, and I'm sure many of us here would REALLY like to know, is just how much is Clifford himself raking in out of all of this? I tell you... I wouldn't want Clifford's karma for all the tea in China.
JK2006	I think her fiance should of course be able to spend the night with Jade (rather him than me); I just feel everyone in similar circumstances should be treated with decency (which rarely if ever happens and when it does the tabloids crucify them). And Max Clifford on the News ("she doesn't have many nights left")? I really believe he will burn in hell.