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Topic History of: Kelvin MacKenzie and Hillsborough
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mikemacca	JC wrote: You'll get tons of hate mail from Liverpool now, Emma. You can't ever question their victim status. But I agree the blame can be shared, even by a section of the Liverpool fans. My mum's from Liverpool and she agrees. Good thing she doesn't still live there. The late Brian Clough stated if the fans had got to the ground in time, queued properly and taken their places without rushing and pushing then this disaster would never have happened.
JC	You'll get tons of hate mail from Liverpool now, Emma. You can't ever question their victim status. But I agree the blame can be shared, even by a section of the Liverpool fans. My mum's from Liverpool and she agrees. Good thing she doesn't still live there.
The Fat Controller	JK2006 wrote: Kelvin was a brilliant editor but his fatal flaw was sometimes getting the public wrong. He did it with Hillsborough (a total disaster and the boycott of the Sun continues to this day in Liverpool). He did it with Elton John. When he got it right (most of the time) he was great (and the Sun sold millions more copies in his era). When he got it wrong, he got it very wrong indeed. But people can change. I was delighted to see on TV last week he's come over to our side on capital punishment and now opposes it. Thanks JK. Straightforward no nonsense reply. I do know that The Sun has tried and failed many times over the course of the last 20 years to win back the Liverpool circulation. They couldn't even give copies away.
Emma Bee	I was always surprised that certain fans refused to take even part of the blame. The gates were opened for human beings, not a heard of stampeding buffalo. Did the fans who pushed into the enclosure not hear the cries of those being crushed in front of them? Could they not see what they were doing? It is ridiculous to suggest that it was entirely the fault of those who let them in. The responsibility must be shared by all those involved. Certain fans behaved irresponsibly. That cannot be denied.
JK2006	Kelvin was a brilliant editor but his fatal flaw was sometimes getting the public wrong. He did it with Hillsborough (a total disaster and the boycott of the Sun continues to this day in Liverpool). He did it with Elton John. When he got it right (most of the time) he was great (and the Sun sold millions more copies in his era). When he got it wrong, he got it very wrong indeed. But people can change. I was delighted to see on TV last week he's come over to our side on capital punishment and now opposes it.