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Topic History of: "Julie Must Go" But Why?
Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
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Innocent Accused |
I'm a firm believer that while this was started by the media the real tide of anger is genuine.Remember MPs conspired to keep these things hidden.
Reminds me of the anger after Diana POW died.It was genuine,and the monarchy only survived by learning a lesson.Seems politicians are doing that now.
To say it's only the meejah is wrong.Talking to the people I meet I feel a very real anger.They want justice,and better accountability.
Not sure how guilty she really is,Andrew her hubby has always been a low life,out for himself.Met him back in '82,didn't take long to form my opinion.
Still she's at best used the system to the max,and hubby,how much did she know about his expenses? |
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veritas |
We are currently getting a really good insight into the total calamity facing the media at present, which will get worse over the coming years. I visited a friend today at the Sydney HQ of News Ltd..he says the atmosphere gets worse every week and it feels like who next will face the gallows. Old-timers are desperately working out retirement deals and fleeing.
3 year contracts given to cadets 5 years ago are now only for 18 months.
The original tale of the MP's fiddles was offered to the greatest editor on the planet..Rebecah Wade of Sun fame. I think she must have been far too busy on her "abused men" campaign and her battle for beaten husband's rights (something she has personal knowledge of)
She turned it down so the seller picked up £90K from The Telegraph. Wade has gone on the rampage with middle level editors and journalists hding out in loos, cupboards..anywhere to avoid the harridan as she screechs from desk to desk demanding to know why she wasn't advised on the importance of the tale.
All newspapers are like sheep and immediately follow the lead and then play a game of leap frog as they try to out-do each other.
Thus a story that should have died a death in a fortnight is allowed to linger until the readers are pleading for another tale of sex and sin, Jordon, Jade...anything.
And to prove that there is really no such thing as bad publicity..an Oz TV station is now trumpeting the arrival of Jonathon Ross's show as featured in the BBC non-scandal of the year.
At least we will get to see the brilliant Russell Brand twice a week now..his profile rocketed here after the Manuel saga. |
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Locked Out |
IA, while I agree with you as a general principle {the principle being "if you're on the fiddle and you get found out you should be prepared for the consequences"} I have to disagree that this issue has been as clear cut as you suggest. Here there has been no due process, here there has been no level-headed assessment of the facts. There has been only a witch hunt, organised at a local level and picked up by a media which is itself hardly a paragon of virtue. The only thing that is clear in my mind is that Julie Kirkbride has been driven out of her job by mob mentality. If this is the future of democracy at work then God help us all. No evidence. No justice {unless you are a fan of kangaroo courts} and no examination. Julie Kirkbride has been, according to many sources, a good constituency MP. She hasn't been anything like as arrogant as has, say, Anthony Steen. Her reluctance to face a braying mob who have already pointed the sword in her direction is, perhaps, understandable. No, this isn't justice at work. There are those out there who would like to string me up for things I've done without asking if I'm sorry or finding out if I'm a better human being now. Thankfully the same legal process which rightly punished me now acts as my protector. I would hope that you get the same protection under the law for something which, no doubt, other people have already prejudged you, no matter how unjustly. I am horribly aware that mob rule is a singularly worrying prospect. Should we ever see the sorrowful spectacle of trial by local petition become the norm - and the assumption that Ms Kirkbride had to go because a minority of her constituents have decided that she needed to be hounded is an acceptance of that principle - then our already broken political system is far from being fixed. If anything just one more part of it has just fallen off.
And, as if to prove a point, a Bromsgrove correspondent to R4's "PM" has just said how much he hopes she won't go because he's "looking forward to voting her out". This is just Big Brother, isn't it? |
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Locked Out |
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If "julie must go" the only logical conclusion is that around 400 MPs must go who have done naughty things with their expenses ( Jackboot Smith a prime example and even Gordon Brown paying his own brother to get a cleaning discount )
So GENERAL ELECTION should be called if "Julie" does go. |
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