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Topic History of: How could they get it SO wrong ?
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In The Know |
Angel wrote:
The leaders of the coalition must talk with the Taliban or its never going to end. Look how long it took for "us" to talk with the IRA. The so called "war on terror" in Afghanistan does not bode well with me.
Agree, Angel.
I've never been able to support anyone who invades another's country (on whatever pretext) and will naturally support the locals in fighting for liberation.
History does not bode well for those supporting the "coalition" (on one !)
Apart from the IRA, almost ever other s0-called "terrorist" organisation including the ANC, Vietcong, Sandinistas etc etc have all won eventually.
Can anyone imagine that Nelson Mandela was once branded a terrorist? |
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BR |
I was enjoying that post Locked Out - very much - until the last sentence.
Brown is a clever bloke - and possibly some of the others are as well. To write them off as stupid is just not true.
Lets wait and see where this all goes. It is about money but is also about power. History shows us that there are power struggles and money ultimately is the weapon of choice - more so than even weapons. In World War 2 Hitler ran out of money and support and could not service his forces. The desire was still there though.
The recovery is being "called" loudly in a PR campaign on both sides of the Atlantic this week. But it is ringing hollow with all the other announcements which are outshouting its effect.
If this is the "double dip" recession then we are about to take a bigger crash than the first last year. So hold on to your hats !!! |
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Innocent Accused |
If it was about bringing peace and defending the world we'd have invaded a load of countries for that reason...North Korea,Iran,Russia,China....but hey...they'd fight back. |
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david |
I totally agree with Angel's post above.
Dialogue has to be the answer, as it was in Northern Ireland. |
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Locked Out |
Well, you've had the loony explanation, here's {I think} a more plausible one.
They're incomptent. It really is that simple.
It doesn't take being part of some reptillian agenda to repeatedly lose peoples' personal data.
It simply requires a breathtaking level of incompetence coupled with an equally breathtaking level of carelessness.
It doesn't take subservience to a Satanist US Secretary Of State {I can't believe he said that} to allow our once-admired police forces to become so completely detached from the people they allegedly serve that they have become the only law that actually matters on the ground.
It just takes a breathtaking level of incompetence coupled with an equally breathtaking level of arrogance.
It doesn't take an economic arrangement dictated by the Bilderberg Group to make a total mess of fiscal policy here.
It simply needs a breathtaking level of incompetence coupled with one egomaniac's vision of himself as a saviour of the world.
And it doesn't need some global conspiracy by the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and Bushes to bog us down in
illegal wars and occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
All that is required is for our erstwhile Prime Minister to be prepared to lie his arse off in Parliament in order to ally himself to and align himself with a US government the chief players of which had some pretty lucrative looking business interests in those benighted lands. If Gordon Brown had reservations about either adventure he certainly didn't give them voice, which makes him either complicit or stupid... the two words which, I think, sum up this government. Bankrupt of the noble principles which were its progenitor, this labour government {and the diminutive there is deliberate} looks more like a cheap prostitute than the grand old lady it should be. That the heirs of Bevin, Hardy and Attlee should have come to this pass is a sad reflection on the times we live in. They say, after all, that we follow America in all things. That being accepted, we should, perhaps, not be surprised to find our governments of whatever political hue simply chasing the buck. Or should that, in the light of recent events, be passing it?
You don't need to be a cynic like me, or a certified fruit bat like BR to recognise that there's something terribly wrong. Maybe it's beyond fixing. But that's not the point. The real point is that this lot have proved beyond all reasonable doubt {and many more times than once} that they are simply incapable of any principled action beyond the press leak or the sound bite. Useless bastards, one and all. And that's the problem. Not some New World Order. Brown, Milliband, Balls and Harman are all way too stupid to be working to a coherent plan.... |
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