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Topic History of: Why no one should ever be a teacher
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BR |
JK - sadly if the teacher did what you suggested then he would find his car smashed up when he left school that day and probably find that allegations would be made against him as well.
Teachers are not allowed to "be-little" their pupils these days - that is a sackable offence.
Teachers have no tricks left in their cupboard to enforce discipline against the small minority who wreck lessons.....
Education is important - not brainwashing as under New Labour - but there needs to be discipline in classrooms to achieve that. Exciting lessons are the main thing - but as we all know a small percentage of kids dont want to be in school. Should they be allowed to rule the majority who enjoy learning ?
I dont believe in the National Curriculum or Testing at every age. But I do believe every human should be given the tools for life - reading - writing - basic maths - history - use of evidence - lifestyle choices and chances to explore what they are interested in.
Why should a racist kid come before any of that ?
I do support teachers - because they made a difference in my life. I dont support Politically Correct Indoctrination Enforcers - as some have become but there are many people who WOULD teach if schools went back to educating rather than brainwashing kids with a political agenda. |
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JK2006 |
I like the Fat Controller's approach; allow the kid to tell the joke and then, smiling sweetly, rip him to shreds verbally making him look pathetic, bigoted and brain dead.
When the entire class is mocking him, he'll learn how to behave.
Plus with kids being so hefty these days and me so puny, he'd probably kick the shit out of me if I tried anything physical, plus make false allegations about sex abuse and I'd probably end up with life in Belmarsh. |
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JC |
"he took hold of his sweatshirt collar with one hand and the waistband of his trousers with the other and hauled him out."
Good grief! Is this all that happened? What a load of fuss over nothing. Now all kids have been given the mesage that they can do what they like. My teachers would have taken my by the scruff of the neck if I'd ignored them in that way, and then I'd have been given an extra punishment from my dad, and they would have been right. Nip this kind of impudence in the bud. Better to suffer a short whack, learn a valuable lesson and make more of an effort to do better in life, than to assume being racist and ignoring authority is ok and waste your life in and out of various kinds of trouble.
Physical punishment (which this didn't even come close to) should be a very last resort, but there is a real, and very harsh, world that kids have to face after their school days. Once they pass 16 they'll find that they've lost the cozy over-protection and idol status of childhood and they'll be treated just as crappily as the rest of us. They need to be prepared for this.
Out of interest .. how would you guys have handled this if you were the teacher? Would you just sit, ignore it, and let him continue? Would you keep on asking him to stop until the bell sounded? Would you cower behind your desk? Or maybe you'd call for someone else and let them take responsibility. It's easy to condemn, but what are your realistic alternatives, other than suspending the kid and giving him full licence to do whatever he likes to whoever he likes whenever he chooses? |
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mikemacca |
is it any surprise that the generation of kids who could not be disciplined at school have turned into the worst lawless, inconsiderate, aggressive, nasty bunch of young people ever seen in a single generation ? |
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Emma Bee |
At one of our teacher/parent meetings there was the discussion about what powers of discipline or control a teacher should have. One silly mother said that teachers should never be able to physically handle her child. We all knew that her son was a school bully. She said that if he was seen bullying someone they should call her and she would come and discipline him. I piped up and asked her, what if it was her son being beaten up? Should the teachers stand by and allow it to continue until the parent of the other child could get there? She seemd to not have an answer for that.
I remember physical punishment in schools, but never any brutality. The only claims of brutality came from those who didn't like being punished even though their punishment was generally deserved. I'm sure there were one of two teachers who abused their powers, but it was hardly a comon occurance.
The reason why teachers should have some powers of reasonable punishment is because kids today know they can get away with anything. The worst that will happen is that they'll be suspended, which often suits them just fine. |
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