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Topic History of: Nasty piece in Mail about Stephen Gately.
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david indeed, JK

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12212...-Stephen-Gately.html

JK2006 Actually a very good commentary by the ghastly fag hag Janet Street Preacher in the Mail today.
david oops I forgot to say- very nice post above mine,BR
david Mike, I find your comments rather hard to comprehend, coming from a gay person.

For me, civil partnerships are not necessarily trying to emulate marriage, but are more about givng legal recognition to your partnership- with all that goes with it- inheritance rights, hospital visiting rights, etc... thankfully gone are the days when hospital visiting rights were denied to long term partners, or blocked by parents/blood relatives simply because they were of the wrong sex.

I for one am pleased they exist.

With regards to your comments about effeminate gay men and butch women, I think you are judging people using sweeping generalisations. how do you know those people are not being themselves. Gays and Lesbians come in all shapes and sizes, some are naturally butch or feminine or everything in between. You may not be feminine yourself, but other gay men may feel more comfortable and authentic behaving like that. And as for who is faking it and who is genuine, who knows, and who cares, not me.

Many people are surprised that I am gay, others can tell straight away- doesn't bother me. i have come to realise that I can be both, quite masculine or rather camp. I don't put it on, it just depends who I'm with and is often quite unconscious. But I suppose if you saw me in certain situations behaving in a certain way you would judge me as you judged others above. Yet you would be wrong, there is nothing fake about me, however I behave.

As for Jan Moir, Charlie Brooker was spot on in highlighting the big flaws in her article. The fact that she deliberately highlighted two partnerships which were completely unrelated, except fior the fact that one partnet had died and, oh yes, they were both gay couples. That is all they had in common, yet she sneeringly held them up as examples of how civil partnerships somehow will inevitably lead to this kind of outcome. As Charlie Brooker said in his article, drawing conslusions on a statistical example of 2 is very flawed.
BR Mike - I believe that the Gately family had a history of this illness. So it was not as unexpected to them as it has been for the rest of us.

The article was not sensitive to his family and friends and fans who were in grief at that time. It is unwise to speak "ill of the dead" - and I believe that rule should be applied to everyone.

With regards to "sexuality" - I believe we all need to live a life of love. If we "take" all the time then that is no way to live. None of us - least of all a journalist is in a position to judge Stephen Gately on this most personal of things.

As Jesus said when the crowd and disciples were about to stone Mary Magdalen - "He who is without sin cast the first stone" - our society is too judgemental about these things.

RIP Stephen Gately