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[b]BR wrote:[/b]
[quote]Major was the problem.   The reforms that Thatcher made which helped make UK prosperous the idiot MAJOR watered down.  Blair continued the idiot MAJOR's policies until 2001.

BROWN has tried to change things towards a centralised Soviet style of Socialist Republic - hence ID Cards and military adventures and the "cult of the leader" PR ideas.   He has also tried to borrow his way out of the problems - but has failed badly.  He will go down as the worst PM in history - even worse than those of the 1970s.

Thatcher should be judged on how she took a bankrupt country with 3 million unemployed and turned it into the wealthy and competitive country it became in the 1990s.  This was her legacy.  That MAJOR and BLAIR watered it down and then BROWN kicked it into touch and destroyed this - is not her fault.

The UK was much better in 1989 - it was happy - people were happy - new jobs and industries were growing.  The grass was greener and the air was cleaner.  We all looked forward to a great future.
Only the EU was a blot on the horizon - yet THATCHER promised to protect us from that fiasco as well.

How the MEN who have followed since have destroyed what she achieved will likewise be a great story.

Andrew Marr is a great TV presenter - but as a historian he does not really have much sway because he always looks at supericial factors rather than real changes.

The end of MINING was a great victory for the future - the miners would have been put out of work in any case - THATCHER knew that the UK could not rely on coal and expensive coal at that.  If the MINERS had won the UK would have had a far worse future and our current situation would not be as comfortable as it is.

Old industry was finished.  THATCHER saw this first and tried to pull the unions into a modernising programme.

Remember that BROWN has destroyed MORE INDUSTRY in 2 years than THATCHER did in 10 years in real terms as well.   In terms of RETAIL Brown has destroyed 30% of the UK - perhaps 60% of independent traders in just 2 years.

THATCHER was brilliant - I did not like the woman at all I might add.  I did not like what she did - but with the hindsight of history I realise that she was right.  Like the horrible medicine that used to be given out - sometimes the taste is not the reality.  We needed THATCHER.

In fact we need a THATCHER now - sadly Cameron is not a MRS T.   Lets hope he has the balls to sort out the mess he will inherit.  Remember he is 12 per cent ahead in the polls - enough to win alot.  In addition TORY voters are intentionally NOT ANSWERING for pollsters - I was around someones house last week when MORI rang - and the TORY voters wont answer these polls on principle.  Therefore I reckon the TORIES are probably 17 - 20% ahead.[/quote]

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Topic History of: Brilliant Andrew Marr on Thatcher
Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)

Author	Message
veritas	hello Ms Minge
JK2006	Yes there is a thread about it somewhere - superb.
Prunella Minge	Anyone watching Michael Cockerell's Great offices of State series on BBC4? Very interesting, with some good insights into Thatch, too.
veritas	JK2006 wrote: I blame Adam and Eve myself - actually, no, I blame God for creating them in the first place. thanks very much. I always get the blame.
JK2006	I blame Adam and Eve myself - actually, no, I blame God for creating them in the first place.