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Topic History of: The New World Order
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BR 1. I have made no definitive statements of fact. But I am qualified to have an opinion.

2. I only mentione "police speak" - I did not say you were in the Police ( touchy about that are we ? - not suprised it could be seen as an insult by some people )

3. New World Order. The phrase was first used by the older BUSH. It is not a conpspiracy created term - it was adopted by the Bush neo-cons in the early 90s and members of the Bilderberg group. Like the term Al Quaeda it is loose term describing a movement - like fascism. Therefore to state its aims would be difficult.

I have direct experience of Government - The Rothschilds - The Masons - etc. through my career. So my research is very simply what I have observed at first hand. What I read in books and on the net is very much secondary - you imply that all books about the New World Order are wrong. People like Jon Ronson and Pilger and Icke etc. Can you explain why they are wrong about the New World Order - Ronson for instance is a non believer in the NWO but has managed to see the Bilderberg group in action.

I suggest you read some books on the NWO - then come back here to explain your position. At the moment you only seem to want to deny the existence of elite bankers.

QUIZ

GOLDMAN SACHS and the NWO.......

1. Where did the founders come from

2. Where did Hitler have his power base

3. Where did the modern illuminati have their power base

4. What relationship does Goldman Sachs have to Lehman Brothers

5. Paulson bailed out the banks with BILLIONS. What was his job before he worked for the Fed ?

6. Bernanke continued the bail out for Bush and then Obama. What was his job before he worked for the Fed ?

7. Did Tony Blair get a paid job with the Banking Elite when he left power ?

8. Did Blair's son get an intern job - if so who with ?


It is very easy to find the truth if you look for it. Deniers of the cover up crouch behind sofa and refuse to realise what is going on when it is simple.
Mr. Snedwitch Hi, BR.
I haven't spent the last 2 weeks on here doing anything. If you can find a post of mine more than 4 days old I'll be more than happy to eat my words. It looks like Jim was right, as seeing as you have just accused me of police speak. I'm not a policeman, don't know any policemen and have no future ambitions which in any way involve the police. So you are wrong about that too.
And I haven't at any point said you're not qualified to discuss anything. I said you are not qualified to make definitive statements of fact. Can you spot the difference? Here are some facts for you.
You are not, by your own admission, a new world order researcher. Therefore all you are doing is repeating parrot fashion someone else's conclusions. You can say you believe these things to be true but you never do that. You claim as fact something which you haven't researched yourself yet accept as gospel truth. Fooling all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time and all that. You can bluster as much as you like about your various qualifications but I notice you still haven't answered the question.
Why does there need to be a "new" world order. What was wrong with the old one? With the entire population enslaved (you said that) for nearly 5000 years (you said that as well) it seemed to be working well for the elite you state as fact exists. That's all I'd like you to explain, without you shouting, patronizing or making accusations which you have no way of substantiating. Why is it so much to ask?
BR Conspiracy Theorists.....

Well you two - you seem to have spent the last two weeks

1. Spouting some "police speak" statements in answer to the postings on here commenting on recent Police scandals ( which I might add none of us on here are connected to in any way - so to suggest that we are making up what is being reported in the media is really silly. )

2. Accusing me of not being qualified to comment on Political or Historical matters - which is a strange statement when you claim to be new to this forum and you have never asked me what my qualifications in that area are - so to help you understand the level of qualification of some of the posters I have degrees in Modern History from UCL - Politics from LSE and Cambridge University and in my career I have at some time worked in the Civil Service in Government policy.

I suggest that you lay out your qualifications which allow you to say that I am not qualified to discuss historical issues and political issues.

I do agree that I am not a conspiracy researcher. I dont see the NWO as a conspiracy theory. The Bilderberg Group - all the Political Treaties of the last 100 years are all historical fact - all the way up to the Lisbon Treaty of 2009 and the G20 agreements. It is clear from the Financial Crash of 2008 and continuing depression that something is not right in Global International Finance would you not agree ? and the War on Terror has been proved to have been fought on the basis of a dossier that contained untruths written by a spin doctor and sold by the accomplished actor Blair for his handlers ( Bush ) in the White House. I dont think anyone would disagree with this version of events - because we know it to be true.

If you want to read books about International and Government finance and go on some courses ( all of which I have done ) then please do - and then let's discuss fractional banking - the way in which Governments finance themselves - who controls the supply of money - who owns the World's banks - which countries owe money to the international bank or other banks. Then once you have a good understandng of all of that - let's discuss why the ordinary people who have done nothing wrong are being asked to pay high taxes and face cuts.......to give that money to pay for bailing out the bankers........is this something I have made up or is it really happening ?

You are welcome on here - I have never insulted you or said you were wrong. I have just put my points accross like above - and yet you want to insult me and say I am not qualified to have the right to comment. Sounds awfully like censorship and fascism to me - so I am looking forward to your evidence for that comment about me.
Mr. Snedwitch Thanks Jim. I suppose throwing insults around is par for the course. It would certainly seem to be easier than answering the question. I just think it's funny that conspiracy theorists always criticize other people for doing it yet it seems that it's the weapon of first choice for them too.
Jim Thanks Mr. Snedwitch, you write:

"You really know how to make people welcome here, don't you?"

Excellent post! That's exactly how I feel. Pretty soon they'll be accusing you of being a member of the NWO, an alien, a member of the press or a police infiltrator. I've had the last two already. It's all standard stuff round here, from those two at least.

Best Wishes,
Jim