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Topic History of: The shocking thing about the coalition's benefit cuts
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In The Know veritas wrote:
However I know there are whole generations now that go without a job and I don't believe overall the vast majority want that.

QED ! - I think we are making progress LOL !

Re - Jobs ... there are plenty of jobs out there - if people are not qualified, whose fault is that?

We've already spent billions of their education - and only when they realise that it will be their fault if they are unemployable, will they start to reap the benefits of the education we provide (again, free of charge !)
veritas In The Know wrote:
Angel wrote:
Whilst I agree with your sentiment ITK, you cannot say that all those who live on sink estates abuse the system. It's a bt more complicated than that.

A bit, angel - but not alot !

We as a society have alot to blame.
My Grannies generation would never have sponged as this lot do today (and would probably have starved rather than claim anything - even things they were fully entitled to).


but we didn't want your Granny to starve that's why we (on the left) fought for conditions so she would be looked after. Even my dad who was a banker voted for the welfare state.

However I know there are whole generations now that go without a job and I don't believe overall the vast majority want that.

I've seen so many younger people who seemed destined for life on benefits given a chance of work and they really blossom.

But I don't know where all these jobs will come from as both left and right governments have actively encouraged sending industry to the third world on the phony claim it will help them when all it does is lower wage costs but product costs stay the same and profits boom.

And if you don't have a population than can spend the whole economy collapses which is why welfare pumps billions back into the economy every week.

As an example- Aust was the only country to avoid the recent world-wide recession and that's because St Kevin Rudd gave everyone -from the unemployed , pensioners to families a few thousand $$$ bonus-and told them (like the Pools winner) to spend spend spend...which they did (local Chavs all now have flat screen tvs !) but it was the pyschological boost that worked.

Then again if the Chinese economy collapses-we are doomed.
In The Know veritas wrote:
Surely council houses aren't free ?..they pay rent.


No they don't ... thats the whole point !
The vast majority of Council tenants pay no rent at all - because Housing Benefit pays for it !
In The Know Innocent Accused wrote:

Think you're not entirely up with the British benefits system.
After a false allegation destroyed my life I now receive nearly £800 a month in benefits while sick.If you add on the freebies like medicine etc it's considerably more.I don't pay rent,or rates,there are those who take out much more than me.


Just what I have been saying.

Whilest we must protect those who are genuinely sick, and the vulnerable (disabled etc) - there are thousands upon thousands who simply will not work (hence 1.5 million who haven't worked for more than nine years !)

The system at present makes it beneficial to them to stay at homec - and more fool us for putting up with it !
In The Know Angel wrote:
Whilst I agree with your sentiment ITK, you cannot say that all those who live on sink estates abuse the system. It's a bt more complicated than that.

A bit, angel - but not alot !

We as a society have alot to blame.
My Grannies generation would never have sponged as this lot do today (and would probably have starved rather than claim anything - even things they were fully entitled to).