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Topic History of: An important debate last night in the House of Commons
Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
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SJB |
I remember reading about the Kiszko case and being absolutely appalled. The police involved in that case were either a) maliciously trying to convict an innocent man or b) so horrendously incompetent that they failed to check glaringly obvious lines of enquiry. Whichever it is, it's simply not good enough.
The Jeremy Bamber case was a new one to me, so I read up on it. Once again, it looks like a case of the police trying to nail someone (anyone) and contriving, fabricating and falsifying a case. And let's not forget hiding or ignoring inconvenient evidence. To me, there seems to have been nowhere near enough evidence to convict this man, or even charge him. Furthermore, the scenario of his poor mentally ill sister being the killer is much more compelling and crucially, better supported by the evidence.
Apart from the principles of justice, law and good practice, there is a personal and human dimension in these cases. My heart goes out to these poor victims for what they have been through both at the hands of fate/misfortune and the state. |
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steveimp |
veritas wrote:
steveimp wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
I was invited to attend but editing and weather prevented me.
On the uselessness of the CCRC (Criminal Case Review Commission) - meant to expose and correct miscarriages of justice but, I think, in thrall to the Government which pays the wages and does not want too many high profile appeal successes.
My wrongful conviction was discussed at length; as was the disgraceful case of Susan May (Google her).
I did read yesterday that the Jeremy Bamber case is due for review again soon. Some of the evidence that has emerged recently is amazing (how can someone murdered 6 hours earlier, according to the Police, still have fresh blood running from wounds?).
steveimp- I am an example of someone whose views were molded by the media in the Bamber case. I believed every horrific detail published right back then.
Now after reading everything in review it's clear to me a great injustice has been done.
One of the things that I remembered from university that has stayed with me all this time is about critical reasoning. Since then I haven't believed anything that the media comes out with because there is always an 'agenda' attached, be it from the left or right dichotomies.
The Police will do anything to get a 'body' (pardon the pun). The fact that the 'body' hasn't done it doesn't really matter to them, but it's another big tick. Come ten or so years later and the public find out that an injustice has been done, well the Police involved in it are either well promoted or retired and no one will prosecute them. The Stefan Kiszko case was one in particular where there should have been criminal convictions of the officers involved should have been prosecuted.
I quote Anthony Beaumont-Dark, a Conservative MP who said, "This must be the worst miscarriage of justice of all time". Kiszko could not produce sperm, therefore the evidence of semen at the site of the murder of a poor girl could not have been his at all.
But no, again the Police are protected by a system that allows them to be corrupt and keeps them corrupt.
Sorry for the rant, but the unfairness of our society gets on my bristols. |
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veritas |
steveimp wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
I was invited to attend but editing and weather prevented me.
On the uselessness of the CCRC (Criminal Case Review Commission) - meant to expose and correct miscarriages of justice but, I think, in thrall to the Government which pays the wages and does not want too many high profile appeal successes.
My wrongful conviction was discussed at length; as was the disgraceful case of Susan May (Google her).
I did read yesterday that the Jeremy Bamber case is due for review again soon. Some of the evidence that has emerged recently is amazing (how can someone murdered 6 hours earlier, according to the Police, still have fresh blood running from wounds?).
steveimp- I am an example of someone whose views were molded by the media in the Bamber case. I believed every horrific detail published right back then.
Now after reading everything in review it's clear to me a great injustice has been done. |
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BR |
Very good point.
The DAVID KELLY "murder" also has so many unanswered questions.
I have come to the conclusion that we are not told the truth about anything - the WIKILEAKS affair confirms that.
We are treated as slaves to the world economic system and basically lied to on a daily basis. The Truth is whatever the "Ministry of Truth" says it is. Evidence opposing the official line is "rubbished" and anyone seeking truth about serious issues is either locked up or mysteriously dies in a small plane crash.......
We are in a World Police State. Those countries who will not comply ( Iran - N Korea etc ) are called rogues and will be erased unless they embrace the Mantra of the USA and their followers. As BUSH said - if you do not back the USA you are a terrorist..... |
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steveimp |
JK2006 wrote:
I was invited to attend but editing and weather prevented me.
On the uselessness of the CCRC (Criminal Case Review Commission) - meant to expose and correct miscarriages of justice but, I think, in thrall to the Government which pays the wages and does not want too many high profile appeal successes.
My wrongful conviction was discussed at length; as was the disgraceful case of Susan May (Google her).
I did read yesterday that the Jeremy Bamber case is due for review again soon. Some of the evidence that has emerged recently is amazing (how can someone murdered 6 hours earlier, according to the Police, still have fresh blood running from wounds?). |
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