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Topic History of: Rioters ... so now we know !
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JK2006 Agreed on both points ITK
In The Know Locked Out wrote:
I also, however, condemn simplistic and gloating statements which do little to explore the causes {there must have been some} and betray a mind that does even less to understand what is happening.

making "excuses" again ?

there are NO excuses for theft, violence and anarchy.

there is nothing to "understand" - they are simply thieves who take what they can (if they can).
We - as a society - must make sure they can't.
In The Know Innocent Accused wrote:
Since the dawn of time people have used violence to take things from others.
My only query here is that we don't use this as an excuse for the police to get false convictions.The courts are under pressure,and must surely be short of time.Mistakes are easily made,people easily 'stitched up'.

For once I'm siding with ITK here! But only in the fact that this was far more about taking the easy option to destroy and steal,than a cry for help from the underclass.


I did warn - when first posting about the riots - that the police would use the opportunity to -

a/ demand more powers, and

b/ insist that cuts to the force staff levels are not needed.
JK2006 Rioting - easily understood I think; there will always be some (crooks, anarchists - though I rather like anarchists, thugs) and the vast majority just think "oh this is fun mindless violence - I'll have some of that please" (don't we all?).

However, in the past that's just stopped at the odd group, gang or club.

Now, with this marvellous communications tool "the internet", dozens can become hundreds or thousands... thus Arab Spring or Tottenham or whatever else.

It is the new world we've built which will end, mark my words, with the end of the species. Spontaneous combustion.
Locked Out Oh, I have no special kick for sticking up for the rioters. Rioting is uncivilised, violent and generally wrong in so many ways. I condemn the rioting and I condemn the violence. I also, however, condemn simplistic and gloating statements which do little to explore the causes {there must have been some} and betray a mind that does even less to understand what is happening. As long as this is the mentality which prevails nothing will change. So much seems obvious - at least to me.