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It is argueable that this subject - secret trials / abductions / renditions / torture etc (all of which can and DO happen when the curtains are closed) - brought down B-Liar.
It is argueable also (cause and effect) that repressive measures LEAD TO attacks - not contain them (would July 7th have happened at all had we not sought to repress people?)
And who says we need them anyway ?
The Intelligence Services !!! LOL - The ones who told us Saddam had WMD !!!