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Topic History of: Oh Boy,Saville fiasco goes Gay
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HaventAClue |
Blackit's hacked it - again !
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Blackit |
mr opinion wrote:
The rules havent changed..the law, you know...you cannot defend by suggesting attitudes were different back then.....the law says 16 and if you want to argue, go ahead its your site and board.....but mitigating wrong doings isnt a pleasant trait in anyone
The law has changed Mr Opinion. For example, back in the 60's and 70's, 14 and 15 year olds were not legally defined as children, as Jonathan King has pointed out here before. The age of absolute consent was 16, but if the young person was over 14, prosecutions were only pursued if a formal complaint was made by the young person or their parents. This was similar to the system still used in the rest of Europe and many other countries.
I wonder what Mr Opinion thinks of the state pardon recently given to Alan Turing? He broke the law back in the day with a 19 year old boy for what was then, as JK pointed out, still a capital offence.
And how far do you want to go back in time to mete out some overdue pedo mob justice? Elvis Presley, Charlie Chaplin? I think I've read Dickens had an underage affair, and Goethe was famous for them. Shakespeare's love sonnets were likely dedicated to a young adolescent boy. Let's go smash up the wonders of Florence while we're at it, because the entire Renaissance and with it our civilised modern world was built by lovers of boys.
Go watch a Carry on Film from the 60's and 70's to see how attitudes have changed. Barbara Windsor was playing a 14 year old schoolgirl in that iconic scene in Carry On Camping where her bra bursts. Over 20 million people tuned in on Christmas Day in 1973 to see a '13 year old' Barbara Windsor sit on Sid James lap in the Christmas grotto while Sid made crude jokes about having a hard on and how quickly her boobs were growing. Most of them no doubt guffawed and giggled just as the studio audience did. Are every one of them paedophiles? Why don't we just put everyone over the age of 60 on trial for 'historic paedopilic attitudes'?
The Daily Mail regularly publishes photos of under 18's in skimpy dress etc, for example Miley Cyrus pole dancing when she was 17. Technically speaking that is level one child porn according to the letter of the law. Maybe in another 50 years, when the UK is even more paedohysteric than today, the editors will be put on trial (after they are dead), as well as everyone who bought the paper, and we'll all wonder how nobody complained at the time.
Funniest moment in the interview with Savile's nephew is him claiming that he didn't think anything bad of his uncle even when he was supposedly holding parties for young girls because 'paedophiles didn't exist in those day's'. Well, exactly. |
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The Fat Controller |
Has there been a new law passed? I presumed people were innocent until proven guilty. Does this not apply once the accused has died? |
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Mrs Hedda Opinion |
mr opinion wrote:
The rules havent changed..the law, you know...you cannot defend by suggesting attitudes were different back then.....the law says 16 and if you want to argue, go ahead its your site and board.....but mitigating wrong doings isnt a pleasant trait in anyone
Correct and if some of these accounts are true (I'm not convinced) .. something ghastly 40 years ago it's still a ghastly act.
The media is having a field day with stories flooding in and every tabloid and 'quality' newspaper is belting each other out of the way to condemn the BBC and anyone they can point a finger at.
And what better proof that the attitudes to ghastliness is not a moveable feast than this:
I have been a regular visitor to the British Libraries newspaper section which is quite remarkable : every edition of every newspaper printed is stored there and spending a day researching is illuminating into how attitudes change.
Pop out there for a day and do some research on Jimmy Savile and you will find many of Britain's forests have been chopped down to print articles of praise on Mr Savile in....wait for it..The Sun, Daily Express, News of the World, Daily Mail, Daily Star etc etc (fill in the names of every publication ever produced in Britain).
If something terrible happened then every media outlet in Britain should be in the dock along with Jimmy's corpse. |
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Chris Retro |
I just had a thought - a very simple thought.
Given all the BBC/TOTP/Savile bashing from ITV & it's shareholders (The Daily Mail & The Sun) have we had confirmation yet that Fleet Street in the 60s, 70s & 80s promoted equality and had a strict policy of no sexism, bullying or abuse?? If not, why not and why are they pursuing the BBC above and beyond the 'Jimmy Savile' issue?
This should be the stock question we put to any supporters of the Heil/Sun or the ITV shockumentary.
If they can't confirm that, they haven't a leg to stand on.
Now of course they can't and the won't do anything of the sort, but it should be a stock mantra repeated at each and everyone everytime this circus act is mentioned. |
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