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[b]Ben 9 wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]Ben 9 wrote:[/b]
[quote]But much more important is the big change to the coming Pope selection process; the winner will now have to give a guarantee on his past life. Only those with nothing to hide....will come forward..[/quote]

As a result, it is thought that the 'white smoke' will be a long time coming! The successful OAP, who will run a religion with 1.6B followers, will be analysed minutely - from the day he was born, including his family/friends and all relationships; in addition to everything he ever said and did.

The catholic church is now in turmoil and another OAP is not the answer; the last one couldn't last the pace and the one before that was seriously ill coming to the end. Undoubtedly, radical changes are needed - but unlikely to occur in an organisation still living in the middle ages, or before.

No other business/organisation/religion puts this much pressure on one person who - because of a lack of foresight - has to be past retiring age. The system has no logic and doesn't give any continuity, as in less than 10 years time, there'll be another conclave - which will select yet another OAP.[/quote]

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Topic History of: Cardinal Quits!
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hedda	honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote: Ben 9 wrote: In The Know wrote: The Cardinal is already "working his notice" and the complainants have gone public in a malicious attempt to block the Cardinal from taking part in the Conclave. If this "case" appeared in a Court it would be thrown out immediately. Our system has gone potty - to please the do-gooders. How wrong could one person be? O'Brien has been the UK's biggest and highest profile homophobe for years - and now proven/admitted to be a world class hypocrite, as well. His arch hypocrisy - where he vehemently and very frequently denounced gays and lesbians - is worse than whatever he did privately. To think that this chap very nearly was a Pope selector begars belief - and raises MANY more questions. For exapmle, how did he - as a priest/bishop/cardinal - get away with gay activity for years? But as the RCC is to hold the investigation behind closed doors, we may never know; however, legal action is a real possibility (this time!) in the UK. Abuse cases are being looked into by the RCC (usually privately) in every continent - and it is now self evident that serious problems exist right to the top of this dated organisation, which is already seeing a steep and rapid reduction in revenues and donations. Why should people pay to have blokes like O'Brien living in palaces? Legal action for what? Hypocrisy is not a crime and neither is making a pass at another adult or having a relationship. I am intrigued by the phrase "gay activity" It makes me think that they must be leaping about in leotards! he was quite famous for miming to Barbra Streisand records at cocktail parties.
honey!oh sugar sugar.	Ben 9 wrote: honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote: Legal action for what? Male homosexuality was not decriminalised in Scotland until 1980. Just one of many facts which, it is said, might be relevant...... Not very. It isn't as if Scottish gay people were being carted off to jail left right and centre. Right through the seventies in Scotland there were vociferous campaigns for gay rights and there was gay bookshops, gay discos, the international gay rights conference,Britain's first gay centre, SMG womens group,"Gayzette magazine" gay youth group etc etc etc all conducted very openly.
Ben 9	In The Know wrote: You'll be telling us that you didnt back (and lose money on) UKIP next (or that Don Valley isnt closing) ! Never said that Don Valley wasn't closing - just pointed out your gross error on cost. Yes, I backed UKIP, but 'each way' of course and 'reverse forecast'...... My net gain was 27p.
Ben 9	In The Know wrote: These were all priests so would have spent 7 years qualifying AFTER university ... so all late 20's / early 30's And you now this how? (7 years, after university!! 'LOL'). So all the priests this 'disgrace for a cleric' molested were over 21? Its ok then? THANK GOD - the law in Scotland (until 1980) was different and will catch this hypocritic predator. But, why continue to stick up for O'Brien, ITK - do you hope he might just escape because of legal timing?
In The Know	honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote: Legal action for what?! Indeed. These were all priests so would have spent 7 years qualifying AFTER university ... so all late 20's / early 30's?