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[quote][b]hedda wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]InTheKnot wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]andrew wrote:[/b]
[quote]http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/01/iain-duncan-smith-live-benefits

Try adding broadband, TV license, pet food, 2 sets of water rates, food, gas and electric, contents insurance and pet insurance and phone credit.

It's more than &pound;53 Iain.[/quote]

Except that the mythical &pound;53 quoted by the whining market trader was what he was left to live on AFTER rent and bills. Given that the supermarkets are so fond of telling us how you can feed a family of four for &pound;50 a week, &pound;53 per week for one person seems is perfectly manageable. I spent a tenner a week on food the last time I was unemployed.

Also if I am of limited means, I forego luxuries like internet, TV and mobile phone calls . These aren't essentials. Can't afford them? Wait until you have a job that pays you to have them...

Lefty bullshit can be quite hilarious at times.[/quote]

Can we assume that internet is "essential" now that we can only claim benefits by using it,and it is needed for job-seeking? 
I would rather like to see IDS manage on dole money, but i am sure it would be a lot less than fifty-three pounds after bills. 
It is easy for anyone to manage on little money for a short time, but it becomes difficult as time goes on.[/quote]

internet, telephone, transport and TV as well to keep up with the news : are all necessities of life, not luxuries.

it's why MPs have chauffeured cars etc.

I'll grant that while belts are being tightened that perhaps the horse could have a few less bakes hay but as Australia demonstrated...spend, spend, spend out of a recession is the way to go.[/quote]

It would be great to be in Australia's position, however the difference is they have China as a major trading partner who is buying everything the Australians can dig out of the ground. Our major trading partner (as with the US) is the ailing European union. This is the reason why the US is vainly scrabbling to get out of recession despite its policy of trying to spend its way out of it. It may have worked up to a very small point, but it can't get over the European hurdle and has merely added enormously to its considerable national debt.[/quote]

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Topic History of: Tory Bollocks
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honey!oh sugar sugar.	In The Know wrote: True wrote: the Mail yesterday mentioned he wanted his Mistresses kids back because they were worth £1000pm. His "mistress" had left (taking her five kids with her). Thats alot of scratchcard money to lose for someone like Philpott. He planned the fire to blame her, and hoped she'd be convicted so he could claim the kids (and the money !!!!) back. As the primary carer looking after the siblings he was almost certain to get custody anyway.
True	It really does pain me to say it,but I really do think ITK has won this argument
In The Know	True wrote: the Mail yesterday mentioned he wanted his Mistresses kids back because they were worth £1000pm. His "mistress" had left (taking her five kids with her). Thats alot of scratchcard money to lose for someone like Philpott. He planned the fire to blame her, and hoped she'd be convicted so he could claim the kids (and the money !!!!) back.
In The Know	Solihull Exile wrote: And where is ITK? Time to leave the igloo,and rejoin the almost human race. Oh dear, ... I only just return and find myself agreeing with Solihull Exile ! I'm starting to feel quite faint !
In The Know	hedda wrote: no the main reason is that both left and right political parties in Australia maintained Keynsian style strict controls over the financial sector, banks and so on. unlike the UK which under Nu Labour adopted the 'free market' fantasies of Regan / Thatcher/ Bush. ... ane B-Lair ? Brown ? AT LAST you admit that those in charge of the economy for the last 18 years (till the crash) ARE actually responsible !