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The Twitfinder General wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Funnily enough Hedda - just as I've decided in old age that democracy doesn't work,
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and I met her once in Australia for a brief second and was surprised that a woman I basically disliked was so attractive, so petite, so soft looking and as you say, very charismatic.
But she really was just a front man/woman for the free marketeers..in fact she was perfect in that she was so determined to strive ahead...they could stay in the dark behind her and ramp through all the nasty policies.
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JK2006 wrote:
Funnily enough Hedda - just as I've decided in old age that democracy doesn't work,
Congratulations, this must be about the 1000th time you've come out with this brain-bruisingly unoriginal observation, thus qualifying you for a year's supply of Sugar Puffs! |
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Funnily enough Hedda - just as I've decided in old age that democracy doesn't work, I regard Prime Ministers as unimportant people; I don't think they affect matters one way or the other much. I basically think things happen. However you legislate, they will have unintended consequences. Give money to millions and the kickback can come years later. Get rid of dictators and you solve some problems and create others. Mussolini was the best Italian leader economically ever yet the consequences of his "reign" were awful. Hitler likewise (I studied him at University) some appalling bigoted acts but some great economic ones.
Times change. No politician started the Internet; the biggest influence on life style change in 100 years. Or cars. Or planes. Or mobile phones.
Life changes due - almost inevitably - outside forces. Yes - wars appear radically changing and they are usually politically created but the results tend to be instant and temporary - life goes on (for the living) when peace breaks out; economic disasters are sorted out; but the big changes are not politically provoked.
Maggie was a politician who believed what she was doing was right (it often wasn't). She truly did it for the country, not for herself or her image (that's why so many hate her as opposed to the cunning media manipulators). As a person, she was nice (I met her; most critics didn't). I never voted for her and thought a lot she did was bad but a lot was good too. |
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JK2006 wrote:
As Prime Minister - she was strong, powerful and a leader; of course those affected by her adapting the country to the new world will always hate her. God forbid that the Internet arrives and changes our music world! Likewise, God forbid that coal mining would last forever and that changing them would affect communities. Sorry - they needed change. Unions needed change. Personally I felt she should have been kinder socially but economically I thought she moved the country forward.
As a human being I was lucky enough to meet her - she was a nice, kind, charismatic person. Very strong. Very charming.
Agree with that. A rare diamond in what is a political turd. There has not been a truely influencial (and not false) politician since then. In fact politicians in general had someting about them then (Foot, Heseltine et al). Political party PRs now seem to be afraid of having anyone who has colourful views and statements and want candidates to be all things to all men (and women). You end up getting the Ford Sierra of the political world who no-one really wants to vote for. Clegg, Cameron, Millbland. Who the hell is waiting in the wings? |
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