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Topic History of: Who's up for a dodgy deal?
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Mart I think I have correctly logged in now Michael, we had some problems with it, so I stopped doing it on my old comp.
I need to check the message but yes it is me.
I`m still having trouble getting the signature to work though.Bare with me.
Michael Mart wrote:
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You must call me one day by the way,(or vice versa) I find your projects, writings and ideas very interesting.
Good thread well done.

That would be easier if I knew your number, etc. Why don't you sign in and create a signature? It really is much easier for everyone concerned. I notice you're signing Mart now. Is that Martin of the esteemed K?

Incidentally, one label has promised me material for the a/m project (it's a very niche thing, so I don't think anyone here missed the op of a lifetime). No commission for me, just being nice to someone that I hope will return the courtesy at a later date (I'm promised a drink at Cannes - make that a Gaviscon-to-go).
Mart Interesting one about fees though guys as picked up by MM.
Don`t forget they can be counter productive as well, i.e,when a musician/producer/manager stays with an act for the money and is not a 100% behind the projects, but a 100% behind the cash they recieve.
I am very wary of the "Yeah your stuff is great and how much do I get paid?" brigade.
The "real" contributors on projects are overjoyed when they recieve monies which they did not expect.
Music is foremost.
A very prominant manager once said to me, "Well thats` it then Mart, you can`t make any money, just be a cult hero!"
I was very upset by this at the time, particurly when his act signed to Polydor and charted.
However, I would love to chat with him, which I can`t because he sadly died, just to say he was right in some ways and wrong in others, I have ticked over for years in music, his band failed on the third single, and that was it.
DJKZ Well my solution would be a 'proper' Sandi Thom, style we played in our basement because the venues are all ripoff merchants and charlatans. Alternatively put on shows in schools or other places where there is a genuine 'sales' opportunity.

I think regardless of where you are in your development, once you start thinking, sales, product, ROI etc ok maybe not in such blatant terms, your quality goes up and you can create your own opportunities. We are in the Video age, the Youtube generation or a 'paying' variant of it. Come on guys do not stand for it. If it don't pay, then don't play.

No deal is better than a bad deal. You will get stress, be tied up for years and you cannot go and create your own reality when stuck in a bad deal. At least with no deal you have independence and can try doing something else.
Mart Ah yes but Michael, you have drawn you`re bench mark at BBC Radio 2, many people draw them at the Dog and Duck.
These days, I see all my game plans as rungs on a 24 runged ladder for each project, and we "high five" here, when I announce we have achieved another rung.
You must call me one day by the way,(or vice versa) I find your projects, writings and ideas very interesting.
Good thread well done.