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Topic History of: Interesting take on the music industry
Max. showing the last 5 posts - (Last post first)
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zooloo |
Attacking the person (people) and not the point(s) they make shows the man has nothing to say. |
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Big End |
Well said GG, Mart et al. I wonder if the reverse is true of this guy at the top i.e. he's got too much time on his hands making sweeping generalisations and wondering where the fuck it all went wrong.
As for Velvet Rope, it's a shame because there are some good guys posting. However, they tend to get lost underneath a pile of complete nincompoops.
Now, all that said, I read a recent post on another, ahem, well known board, which proudly proclaimed the death of physicals.
IMBECILE...NINCOMPOOP...BLITHERING IDIOT...where have you been for the last three years? |
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DJKZ |
The business is over not because "Those who made it up the ladder are now too old to bother fighting anymore and anyway have lost their interest in music" but because these same people destroyed it with their own complacency and greed. It is not unlike the situation with the England national team, with a higher than normal expectancy in comparison with the actual talent on the ground.
The industry has lost its identity and has for the last 10 year played Russian Roulette with shareholders money whilst living it large in expenses.
Young executives, radio producers and DJs all operated in a Bilderberg style 'olde boys club' where pet projects ruled rather than talent, songs or real hits. Where the only way to get a promotions team to push your record would be if you paid thousands for one of their 'remixers' to do a remix. It became all about egos of those involved and not the music.
It has also become a case of "recycled music" and formula. Rock hasn't moved a day forward since the 1970s, Dance music rehashing 80s music, pop going all retro. R&b well one producer a genre does not make.
But worse than that in a culture of 'dumbed down' illiteracy and computer games I am afraid the music business is dead. The public don't care, they have switched off. Will the last person to leave the building turn the lights off.
Many may think that I am being alarmist and over negative but the stats don't lie. Freeloading dwarfs sales 10-1. When you do buy the record it is unlistenable after 3 plays.
It is not the end of the world but in fact a return to an age when making music was more for the love of music in all its facets. From JK's novelty songs to so called 'serious' artists.
The current major label empire has to crumble and change to something new that would be built on honesty integrity and passion. Where artist and label alike share in the wonders of making and selling music. Where it has some form of meaning even in its meaninglessness. Creativity in disseminating music as well as transparency when it comes to accounting. Release music YOU like and not what your focus group thinks or what the software tells you is a hit.
Where are: Mr Blobby ?, Capt Sensible ? Dollar ? Spice Girls ? Shakin Stevens ? The Wombles ? Madonna ?
We need only 1 of each not a hundred million clones.
X-Factor is fine and great but let not make the mistake of becoming music snobs who only appreciate 'real singers' playing their own music or other bollox like that.
The business has to change. Sales is no longer the primary income stream but a second or third income stream.
Guy Hands has the right idea. Utilize Myspace and Youtube, trim the fat and let the music do the walking. |
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Mart |
A very good and dignified response GG
I have actually met with few retorts over the particular boast that "Waiting" by Fitzpain should be a huge hit...
www.myspace.com/fitzpain
(2nd track down)
..other than people did not think that a young band would stay together as long as they have and more bizzarely their location.
I would say that maybe the message board prompting of product would appear to be lost in the pile often, the same as the hackneyed and ancient cassette in the post was.
This is a problem if the original poster is correct in his attitude and also a problem if his general view of posters is the opinion of many other readers or browsers. |
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GG (producer) |
Well I have to say, I have posted on the velvet rope less than ten times. Every time with something substantial to say, born of real record business experience, and almost every time I have, its been greeted with an inane retort from someone with 9,000 posts, that honestly doesn't seem to know anything about reality. So maybe that is where this persons view is coming from. I would say the core group on this forum is much more in touch with reality, and we know who we are.
How anyone has the time to post 4000 times or 9000 times on a message board, well those people (from the VR) really are wannabe's.
I'm too busy making records, and I value the opinions on this forum whenever I ask for them.
This producer could probably eat that particular major laber higher up, for lunch.
Its about the song and the act and being knocked off your seat, the MUSIC, and why Clive Davis could't fill one of Ahmets shoes.
Whoever it is, is pretty dumb for lumping the whole lot as one. |
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