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Topic History of: Phil Spector found guilty.
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JK2006 My original post stands.

I met Phil just once and he was absolutely charming and a delight.

My tribute to him on You Tube has been getting a lot of reaction.

I'm sad for anyone suffering - whether it be dead women or incarcerated geniuses - and I have no faith at all in any justice system these days.

19 years for someone about to be 70 seems excessive and inhumane.

So what's new?

DJones Phil Spector was given a sentence of 19 years to life in prison today.

He must spend at least 19 years in prison before being eligible for parole.
JC I agree. Most people in prison do not claim to be innocent. After release, my probation officer said that I must have met thousands of other inmates who claimed to be innocent. I said I had not, and he replied with a disbelieving grunt and said "Oh, come on!"

But what inmates say to each other and what they say to police or probation are entirely different. Most inmates see through false claims of innocence. I never made a big shout about my position, but one fellow inmate came to me and said he knew I wasn't guilty. I thanked him for his confidence but argued that he couldn't possibly know for sure. "Oh believe me, I can." he said. I found the same with many others. You can see the truth much clearer from the inside than from the out.

I also knew a old hand on the inside. He would proudly talk about his career. "I am a professional criminal," he said. "That is what I do." On his last job he'd been carrying an Uzi sub machine gun when the police approached him. He said he didn't use it because he didn't wish them dead. They were only doing their job, same as him.
JK2006 And Mike, I found 80% of people in prison readily accepted their guilt and admitted it freely, especially the regulars (I knew a delightful burglar in Belmarsh and Elmley who spent ages discussing his chosen career).

Two points. One - most were guilty of something but NOT what they were convicted of (police and CPS exaggerate and inflate in order to get convictions).

And two - where the "everyone claims to be innocent" attitude may have ruled years ago, these days even officers and staff were starting to realise the reality.
GG Oh Pete you could really get me on a roll with that one!
Most of the great record producers that I know were not failed performers, and indeed some (Nile Rogers etc) were superstar performers.

And yes JK I do understand that moment when your life changes forever in 5 minutes. For you it was Phil Spector, for me it was several of the British greats that first lead me from the States to London to follow the paths of my heroes, and try to find out how on earth does one capture this magic on record.


There's nothing else on earth like that pursuit. Lightning in a bottle.