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Topic History of: How AGENTS killed the UK Venues
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david 2b	there are 3 main music businesses recorded music songwriting & music publishing live performances (concerts, touring etc) The first 2 interest me but the live music model I have no interest in. Not every artist needs or wants to go live - for many artists the interest is in making great recordings. I see the same thing with movies and live theatre. Many actors would much rather just make movies and never walk the boards of live theatre. I really do with this whole push to perform live would go away. Of course for many big established artists they can make a fortune from live concerts and good for them - me, I have no interest.
brianmaiden	thats £25 weekend tickets! Day tickets will be £15 and onsale at the end of July...
brianmaiden	SEE THIS THREAD... www.kingofhits.co.uk/component/option,co...ew/id,46693/catid,5/ All that for a £25 weekend ticket and a FREE show on the Friday... we're luckily blessed by a forward thinking council trying to do something right for their people.... and www.middlesbroughmusiclive.co.uk had over 100 bands over 10 stages and attracted 50,000 people through the gates for FREE!
BR	Good points Andrew. It is hard now to actually make sense of tour pricing and it is good that some artists are still playing small places. It is such a shame that large venues in small towns dont exist anymore - most closed during the 80s for financial reasons to be turned into shopping centres or bingo or real estate. We have a good number of small community theatres - but when the agents put their fees on top most well known bands cant survive on 300 or less sell out venues. In fact there are very few venues between 300 and 1500 now in the UK including London. We have a small scene - and the big bands with agents. It has polarised the live music business completely. I suppose you could say that there is also the ARENA circuit which did not exist before headed by the O2 with their £60 ticket prices. The ticket model is now : £10 and Under New Bands and Unsigned £11 - £20 Mid Sized Venues and Bands ( very few ) £21 - £40 Large venues often with heritage bands £41 - £80 Arena Venuues £50 - £100 Stadium Summer Shows £110 - £175 Festivals There is very little of established acts on offer at the sub £20 a ticket these days - unless they are subsidised like the BINGLEY FESTIVAL free Friday event ( see another thread ) which is amazing value - as are their £25 day tickets.
andrew	There are so many groups touring that I want to see but can't reach. Someone said to me in a pub that bands would travel to all the theatres, town halls and clubs even if they were just a few miles from each other. I seen a rock guitarist called Adam Bomb don't think his established himself in the U.K but his known in the states. He didn't play long but did a good show in front of 7 people and that gig was a £5 then next day saw a poster for unsigned band playing in a pub for £10. I saw Groupie Girl on DVD which had Opal Butterfly and Broken English playing in a down and out halls which were out of on a middle of no where. When 10cc did there tour they even went to Chatham some other small halls. Andy Fairweather-Low is playing in a venue in Maidstone which only holds 370 odd.