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[b]Metal Mickey wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]Clive Smith wrote:[/b]
[quote]When you consider that Robbie already had a proven track record with Take That, and was probably well on his way to becoming a superstar in his own right, it beggars belief why Mr Heffernan didn't go to a music biz lawyer first before signing away the rights to his song for - excuse the pun - a song![/quote]
It's easy to forget that Robbie's solo career had a far from illustrious start - his post-Take That "fat dancer" year hanging around with Oasis made him a semi-laughing stock, his first solo singles, though making the top 10, didn't get to number 1, and his 4th single ("South Of The Border") only got to number 14. The story goes that the next single was meant to be "Let Me Entertain You", but he wouldn't make a video for it because he thought he'd look ridiculous if it was a flop (understandable in the context of the lyrics.) Somebody at the record company offices noticed that the one track all the secretaries kept playing was "Angels", so they took a chance on releasing that instead, with a quickly-shot video of a sullen Robbie walking around on a beach, And The Rest Is History.

All of which is to say that the pay-off might look like a bad decision now, but it wasn't quite the banker it might seem now at the time.[/quote]

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Topic History of: Secrets of the Pop Song
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K	I thought the song written in this weeks episode was the best so far although I’m not sure it’s got “anthem” qualities. The girl from the Noisettes really knows her stuff IMO and was rightly firm with Guy getting out of it what she wanted. She took his ideas and made them her own which to my mind is the way collaborations should be.
Michael	Please, please: no more Pet Shop Boys, and it would have been more interesting to talk to the writers of "I Will Survive" (Dino Fekaris and Freddie Perren - strangely uncredited) than have such a long section on the ho-hum "Common People". They are not playing the same division at all.
GG	Many many songs in the history of popular music that we all know and love, were on the brink of being scrapped, when someone saw or heard something that no one else did took the shot and they became massive hits. The fact that the girls at the label were playing the song over and over is the best market research one could have. You can't manipulate that! Point is that anyone that has been around for anytime at all in the song business can recognize that any particular song is good and may have potential. My advice to any youngster is not to short sell publishing. The very fact that someone was willing to pay Ray 7,000 quid 15 years ago should have raised a red flag if any lawyer was involved. 7K is a lot a money to a kid I can understand. I had a brilliant female singer crap out on me after about a 50k expenditure. She just quit. I could have taken a payout in cash to let it go away. No way I would let that happen. If she becomes the next Celine, or Adele, or whatever, I will make millions with my percentage, and it is deserved. The music business knows her because of me. Just saying..... and that is just one example.....I'm sure many of us here have a story or two like this.
Metal Mickey	Clive Smith wrote: When you consider that Robbie already had a proven track record with Take That, and was probably well on his way to becoming a superstar in his own right, it beggars belief why Mr Heffernan didn't go to a music biz lawyer first before signing away the rights to his song for - excuse the pun - a song! It's easy to forget that Robbie's solo career had a far from illustrious start - his post-Take That "fat dancer" year hanging around with Oasis made him a semi-laughing stock, his first solo singles, though making the top 10, didn't get to number 1, and his 4th single ("South Of The Border") only got to number 14. The story goes that the next single was meant to be "Let Me Entertain You", but he wouldn't make a video for it because he thought he'd look ridiculous if it was a flop (understandable in the context of the lyrics.) Somebody at the record company offices noticed that the one track all the secretaries kept playing was "Angels", so they took a chance on releasing that instead, with a quickly-shot video of a sullen Robbie walking around on a beach, And The Rest Is History. All of which is to say that the pay-off might look like a bad decision now, but it wasn't quite the banker it might seem now at the time.
Clive Smith	When you consider that Robbie already had a proven track record with Take That, and was probably well on his way to becoming a superstar in his own right, it beggars belief why Mr Heffernan didn't go to a music biz lawyer first before signing away the rights to his song for - excuse the pun - a song! As a music biz insider, what kind of a deal would you have cut with him Ken?