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Topic History of: CHARTS - inspired by Dixie and GG's posts on The Word thread
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DJones	JK2006 wrote: The reason we need an accurate, fair, high profile, well respected chart is that it's a FILTER - an essential to get those millions and millions who never hear music unless someone brings it to their attention. Then, often, they love it, want it and buy it. Without a good list programming will rely on personal taste and we all get it differently. Without a fair chart radio and TV play priorities rather than mass appeal quality; ratings suffer; sales droop. There are (at least) three basic problems with your concept: 1) Radio & TV have their own research, based on their target audience (and the priorities of the labels). The overall popularity of a track isn't important for stations which want to reach certain demographics. 2) This new chart wouldn't be based on data which is a "true" / "objective" measure of popularity, but (at least in the cases of the most important gatekeepers, radio & TV) on data which is the result of playlist decisions made according to the priorities of UMG & SONY MUSIC. 3) Where is the audience (formerly known as the mainstream) interested in music from lots of different genres?
JK2006	The reason we need an accurate, fair, high profile, well respected chart is that it's a FILTER - an essential to get those millions and millions who never hear music unless someone brings it to their attention. Then, often, they love it, want it and buy it. Without a good list programming will rely on personal taste and we all get it differently. Without a fair chart radio and TV play priorities rather than mass appeal quality; ratings suffer; sales droop.
Jaded and Bored	Spot on GG. I think we have the right idea and to certain degrees are doing it but we really need to bury the old model once and for all otherwise we will be bogged down by it. A runaway hit will still be a runaway hit though.
GG	No matter how accurate any potential chart is or could be going forward they will have far less impact as an overall indicator of an acts true success (as opposed to let's say 1964). Let's forget an outlier like Adele's "21" for a minute. Today an act will make the largest portion of retained revenue from live performance and merchandising. Possibly publishing added to that if they are writers as well. Today's acts for the most part have to be multi-media artists. I guess the Black Eyed Peas would be a quick example of that. TV/Fashion/Games/appearances other than music performances and more. In any case no matter how accurate the charts are it's a new world order. As a writer would I like to have a number 1?....Of course if nothing more than to be able to say you did........but it is not like Burt Bacharach having a number 1 in 1970.
JK2006	And the hope is to incorporate it into the Prime Time format Simon Fuller is interested in at this very moment (in between Andy Murray games).