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Topic History of: Europe and UKIP
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Pattaya In The Know (as always) wrote:
Pattaya wrote:

Turnout was 34.19% this year,34.7% in 2009.


How can it be representative when 2/3 DIDN'T vote and the winners was chosen by only 1/3 of those who did vote ?


They got more than the losers...and how can part of the governing coalition claim to be representing the electorate when they came a very poor fifth on 6%?
You're given a chance,not voting is a choice.Greece forces peeps into the election booth,how would you vote if forced?

The fact is ITK it's a national election,not a by-election.I have no doubt things will change next year.
Tories and Labour too close to call,expect the Libs to come a pathetic fourth.

How long will Clegg last?
In The Know (as always) Pattaya wrote:

Turnout was 34.19% this year,34.7% in 2009.


How can it be representative when 2/3 DIDN'T vote and the winners was chosen by only 1/3 of those who did vote ?
Pru Mr Reason wrote:
Talking about specifics about Europe?

- Do you want a tighter economic and social alliance with over 30 other sovereign nations? Really, do you?
- Do you want those 30 odd nations to ALL sing from the same hymn sheet and all become clones of each other? Do you really want to get rid of diversity?
- Do you really think that the trading block of Europe is actually stronger together nowadays, when the Chinese and Brazilians and South East Asians are able and willing to trade independently with anybody they choose with restriction?
- Do you really think that an alliance of Socialists, Capitalists, Communists, Conservatives and wierdos (others) are ever going to accept each others visions and have a clear direction of where Europe is going?

........The EEC was originally set-up to counter the unimaginable....another flare up between Germany and France..........so far it has, and long may that continue........It is easy to say the threat of another falling out is over.....but never say never (like removing those economic rules that were in place after the Great Depression, only to see them revoked recently and look what happened).....BUT WE NOW HAVE NATO for the integrated security policy, so maybe we can relax the social integration a little bit, and pour resource into NATO keeping the EURO PEACE by cooperation, and leave the financial and political integration to become more diverse again.....diversity breeds a bit more free thinking than political dogma.



What's all this 'do you?' Your ability to wildly misunderstand my posts is becoming quite irritating, as is your patronising tone.
Pattaya In The Know wrote:
Pattaya wrote:
I was referring to the fact both The UK and French elections were won by anti EU parties,not a miserable 6%....The Looney Libs got 6%....what did you say about oblivion...?
Please quote in context,thanks.


What you were refering to is that a nutter party got elected because the turnout was so small ....... and I was pointing out that when people see what they get, the rarely like it !


'Mr Farage has been celebrating his party's triumph in the European polls, the first time a party other than the Conservatives or Labour has won a national election for 100 years.'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27567744

Turnout was 34.19% this year,34.7% in 2009.

As for nutter party.....wonder when Clegg will go? Seems he's rarely liked these days
In The Know Pattaya wrote:
I was referring to the fact both The UK and French elections were won by anti EU parties,not a miserable 6%....The Looney Libs got 6%....what did you say about oblivion...?
Please quote in context,thanks.


What you were refering to is that a nutter party got elected because the turnout was so small ....... and I was pointing out that when people see what they get, the rarely like it !