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Topic History of: As the hysteria for WW1 gathers momentum ....
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honey!oh sugar sugar. |
In The Know (as always) wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
cowardice is not, in my opinion, something to celebrate.
exactly, honey!
There were 16000 conscientious objectors in WW1 - most were stretcher bearers removing the dead and wounded from the battlefield - under fire (as were the ordinary soldiers) BUT without any means of defence.
I would call that rather heroic, wouldn't you?
As I implied in my original post - its far easier to be a sheep than to stand for your principles.
... and what was achieved (really?)
- apart from sixteen million dead ... and the 20 million wounded ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties
I would call it heroic, but not every conscientious objector was brave and neither was every soldier, and most deserters are cowards but not all, so I don't think a blanket pardon is suitable and do we have the resources and inclination to examine every individual case?
Mistakes are made all the time but there is no need for the government to keep apologising. |
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Pattaya |
In The Know (as always) wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
cowardice is not, in my opinion, something to celebrate.
exactly, honey!
There were 16000 conscientious objectors in WW1 - most were stretcher bearers removing the dead and wounded from the battlefield - under fire (as were the ordinary soldiers) BUT without any means of defence.
I would call that rather heroic, wouldn't you?
As I implied in my original post - its far easier to be a sheep than to stand for your principles.
... and what was achieved (really?)
- apart from sixteen million dead ... and the 20 million wounded ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties
Your original post was about a 'dodgy' man found out of uniform,during a retreat,gone AWOL previously.Hardly a beacon of compassion? |
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In The Know (as always) |
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
cowardice is not, in my opinion, something to celebrate.
exactly, honey!
There were 16000 conscientious objectors in WW1 - most were stretcher bearers removing the dead and wounded from the battlefield - under fire (as were the ordinary soldiers) BUT without any means of defence.
I would call that rather heroic, wouldn't you?
As I implied in my original post - its far easier to be a sheep than to stand for your principles.
... and what was achieved (really?)
- apart from sixteen million dead ... and the 20 million wounded ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties |
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Mr Reason |
I'm all for rememberance........I can't get excited about War Poets or the Lions lead by donkey's stuff.......I'm well read on the First World War and the modern teaching of the Blackadder version is , ahem and I'm a little cautious not to choke here, is 100% wrong............and yet it is distortion of history as we live and breathe....we need to stop it. ( I choke because I'm with Gove on this one)
The BBC have actually tried to address some of this with the Paxman documentaries and few other programmes which is a start.... |
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andrew |
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
andrew wrote:
In The Know wrote:
....... we should feel some sympathy for others who "got caught" in the madness.
Those who stood alone - usually for conscience - were far more courageous and heroic than those who merely followed like sheep.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25841494
Lest we forget (and do it all again) ?
No war should be celebrated, can't wait to see what the media do when it's the 100th anniversary of WW2.
Both my granddad's were deserters in both wars. 
That is interesting.
What was the story behind it, Andrew?
One was a father of 7 he came home on leave to give my nan a seeing to, he refused to go back to the barracks and do work for a charity instead this was in WW2, he was 2 years in the glass house.
In WW1 the grandfather from my real mum's side was a rogue he could not be bothered to sign up he burned his call up papers, during both wars he built and sold children toys, hair gel made from belmanage. |
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