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Topic History of: St Paul's tomb unearthed
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Grandpa Harley |
The Dypsosyni were the 'hereditary' Bishops (Pontiffs) of Jerusalem. They weren't invited to Nicea and were placed under the control of Church in Byzantium. When they turned up at Constantinople to petition Constantine over both slights, they were greeted by some no-mark Bishop who said that the Emperor would NOT see them and sent them home. Strange to say, not one arrived... There was then an extended campaign to wipe out the Dypsosyni
The reason... They claimed to be related to Jesus, through James. This is a clear threat alone. Also they denied Jesus was more than a teacher. Double threat.
In the Gospel of Thomas (that WAS a part of the collection that became the New Testament, but was thrown out by Irenaeus) Jesus tells the disciples that, when he is gone they go to James for guidance. Not Peter, who Jesus seems to regard as a moron. Thus the Dysposyni were a clear political threat to the power of the Church of Rome, so the Early Christians, supported by the might of Holy Rome, did what they did best... absolutely, positively, wiped out every mother in the room. All the while destroying every copy they could lay their hands of Thomas and a bunch of other documents that contradicted the 'Jesus as God' idea that Constantine wanted and Eusebius supplied... a religion to control and defend an Empire.
Obviously stuff falls into the cracks so we have a lot of the texts they wanted destroyed,but, TBH, the translators have largely done both a biased and dry job of 'publicising' the non-canonical material... although that is changing. We only got complete texts post 1948, and more accessible translations are becoming available (The Gospel of Judas became a best seller and isn't badly translated or commented upon from a reading perspective). This is thanks to Dan Brown, in no small part, even though the Da Vinci Code is pretty much fiction.  |
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Grandpa Harley |
Martin wrote:
Very interesting stuff. It has occured to me that despite what I otherwise thought, there is in fact no dividing line between religion and politics after all.
Therefore the truely agnostic do not vote either.
 advocate.
Politics, like faith, is opinion propped up by emotion. |
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In The Know |
The Secret Family of Jesus
On: Channel 4 (4)
Date: Monday 25th December 2006
Time: 20:00 to 22:00 (2 hours long)
Jesus, Mary and Joseph? Or Jesus, Mary, Joseph, James, Joses, Judas, Simeon, Salome and Mary jnr? Leading theologian Robert Beckford tells the story of the conspiracy that Dan Brown missed in The Secret Family of Jesus. It's the story of the people who shared his bloodline and knew him best, and who existed for at least 300 years after his death. |
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In The Know |
I also prefer not to look at these things from a religious perspective (although everyone is welcome to their religious beliefs as long as they keep them to themselves) - think of it more as a historical journey. |
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Martin |
Very interesting stuff. It has occured to me that despite what I otherwise thought, there is in fact no dividing line between religion and politics after all.
Therefore the truely agnostic do not vote either.
advocate. |
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