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JK2006 |
Oh indeed it does Amanda - even when it is only about a relative and a departed one at that. But the forces of good will triumph. Welcome to The King's Army! |
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Amanda |
Felt the need to add to this discussion - I've not suffered jail but I use the analogy of being the lead part in Shawshank Redemption - the frustration, hurt, anxiety all have a colour (darkest purple) it's REAL pain guys - the tears are flowing now - our gagging orders are like slowly drowning - I've nothing else to compare this utter nightmare to but a daily nightmare it is - I'd go as far to say it's like being in prison - I want to scream from the rooftops and have just one or two places to even speak like this....... I may just have a cut finger JK but it bloody hurts every hour of every day. |
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JK2006 |
And sadly some of us feel that as the world has changed it has become harder than ever for jurors to see the truth. Liars are better at lying. Internet research and bent cops assist false accusers. "Evidence" is no longer evidence; it can be lies. The system in 2017 is affected by changes in morality, media development, bad police training and discipline. |
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In The Know |
Which is why we have open trials ... so the Jury (not a single person) can test the witness, judge their truthfulness (are they evasive? / slippery? slimy?) ... is the claim plausible? etc etc etc
A trial is already "loaded" in favour of a defendant (presumption of innocence) UNTIL much more believeable evidence / witness emerges.
The Kray twins SAID they were innocent lol !!!! |
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JK2006 |
But this is more about police and CPS behaviour and how badly they have gone wrong. In days gone by, not only would Judges not allow allegations of police misconduct from the defence (as I was told 17 years ago) but jurors tended to assume all police were like Dixon of Dock Green, apart from the odd (very rare, like "false Accusers") bad apple. Now however they are starting to see breaches of the code of discipline and even criminal behaviour. Because they got away with it for so long, assisted by politicians like Michael Howard who, with I believe best intentions, changed the law in order to make it easier to convict genuine abusers, they spotted loopholes they could use. Aided and abetted by Judges who, again with best intentions, tried to uphold the law (however barmy). Aware that Judges would always back them, police got lazier and more corrupt; from bending the law they started breaking the law themselves, in order to get convictions. Told by their bosses that truth did not matter but convictions did, they crossed the line. Until Sir Richard Henriques, a retired Judge who was, until then, unaware of the behaviour of police, examined cases in detail and was absolutely horrified. Next step? Prosecutions of individual police and public officials - not just false accusers. When those who not only allowed Danny Day and Jemma Beale and others "get away with it" but assisted in their crimes ("credible and true") are locked up for long periods, we may see balance return. Too late for the thousands in jail now or in the past. Too late for the Amelie Delegranges and Marsha McDonnells and murdered innocents because a corrupt cop let a killer escape justice. Too late for the Breck Brecknars, whose life was taken by someone escaping police attention due to senior officer incompetence. Too late for Deepcut kids killed by someone escaping decent police investigation (who is probably still out there, killing). But hopefully in time to prevent future tragedies. |
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