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Topic History of: One way to cut the number of false Allegations
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honey!oh sugar sugar. PaulB wrote:
honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Under the presumption of innocence Robbie we must assume all allegations are false until or unless (and sadly even after) they are found to be true. There is no sitting on the fence about this unless you accept the presumption of guilt.


Why cant we assume both parties are telling the truth unless or until it is proven?



Because under British Law, when it's properly applied, the burden of proof is on the prosecution.

And reality dictates that if (for example) one party says a box is black but another says the box is white, they cannot both be correct.


The box is likely to be grey.
PaulB honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Under the presumption of innocence Robbie we must assume all allegations are false until or unless (and sadly even after) they are found to be true. There is no sitting on the fence about this unless you accept the presumption of guilt.


Why cant we assume both parties are telling the truth unless or until it is proven?



Because under British Law, when it's properly applied, the burden of proof is on the prosecution.

And reality dictates that if (for example) one party says a box is black but another says the box is white, they cannot both be correct.
JK2006 No and if police and CPS stop calling complainants "victims" I'll stop calling them "false accusers" and just call them "accusers". But as long as the most important examiners of the allegations side always with those making claims, be they for greed, cash, compensation, revenge, sympathy, divorce or even genuine delusion, I shall continue to redress the balance by assuming those accused to be innocent and not guilty.
robbiex honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Under the presumption of innocence Robbie we must assume all allegations are false until or unless (and sadly even after) they are found to be true. There is no sitting on the fence about this unless you accept the presumption of guilt.


Why cant we assume both parties are telling the truth unless or until it is proven?


Absolutely, you can't just assume that they are lying.
honey!oh sugar sugar. JK2006 wrote:
Under the presumption of innocence Robbie we must assume all allegations are false until or unless (and sadly even after) they are found to be true. There is no sitting on the fence about this unless you accept the presumption of guilt.


Why cant we assume both parties are telling the truth unless or until it is proven?