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Topic History of: Football - they're fighting already !!!!
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GLEN |
I can speak as a qualified person on this subject, i have been to that Roma stadium to watch around 5 or 6 games and had no problem whatsoever. In fact people respect the police there so much they don't even think of causing trouble.
You have to look at the Man Utd fans in this instance - Celtic went to Milan only a month or so ago - enclosure full of Italian police and not 1 arrest. newcastle went to a hotbed of trouble (Palermo) and had no problems or arrests only 2 months ago.
maybe our previous reputation of hooliganism doesnt help but i dont think the Utd fans were blameless in this case |
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In The Know |
More football hooligans rioting - this time the Spurs lot -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6531683.stm |
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In The Know |
terrylamps wrote:
You don't get it obviously, have you been there, seen it first hand? If not you shouldn't come to conclusion until you are in the know....
Terry, what I do "get" is that there is ALWAYS trouble at football matches ! (They actually praised the fans at Euro 2004 because there were ONLY A FEW instances of rioting !!!! WFT! Has the world gone mad? There should be NO instances of rioting at all!
As long as you (and others) continue to repeatedly make excuses for these people it will go on.
As soon as the authorities clamp down properly (shoot a few perhaps?) it could be cured overnight. |
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Mart |
I`m sort of stuck in the middle on this debate.
I did think the police were appalling last night,(bang out of order) but there is still an underlying element that makes me not go to watch my team anymore, and that is some of the supporters.
It`s hardly a life threatening act down here, but there is a nasty tradition for the home "thugs" to pelt the away fans with acorns.
It hurts a bit, but mainly just starts fights, and I was most upset when my daughter was hit.
The fairly innocent seed hits you as hard as a stone, but of course, in the hands of the riot squad last night would probably be designed to explode on impact should they be given an armory of oak as well. |
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JK2006 |
I'm with TerryLamps on this one ITK; I have no faith at all any more in the police and I reckon the villains in Italy, with less chance of expressing their violent side through the collapsing areas of Mafia and Cosa Nostra, now go into the Police (as the truly dodgy do everywhere - the line between villain and cop can be very thin).
You only have to look at the Italian riot police to see they were loving every second of it.
The only football match (well, soccer; I've gone to dozens of American football games and THOUSANDS of baseball games and there's never any trouble at any of them) I've ever attended was in Italy - TURIN - the World Cup when we played Germany (semi final 1994ish??).
All the fans were super (I'd scalped a German fan's unused ticket - at face value - and was smack in the middle of the German supporters; hilarious as both sides scored seeing me cheering all on my own or sitting miserable in the middle of cheering Krauts!). If you remember we lost on a final shootout. Both sides had played great. Both sets of fans were gentlemen with much English shaking German hands and saying "go kill the Argies" in the final - I think it was just after the Hand of God incident.
In my very, very limited experience, fans are 99% fine (just a few nasties) but the cops can be dodgy - and not only at football matches (try false allegations). |
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